Seeking FEMALE XC coach for middle school girls team in San Francisco

Your request is in violation of Federal law.

hansen wrote:

1) You must be female. I'm a 30 year old guy and having two guys coaching a team of young girls won't fly. Sorry!

2) We run with the girls so you must be in decent running shape. The top couple of girls are roughly 6 minute milers. It's fine if you aren't that fast. Most of the team isn't :)

3) You should obviously like kids and preferably have experience teaching or coaching them.

4) The season will be approximately 8 weeks long. Daily practices take place from 3-5pm near the Sea Cliff neighborhood. The girls all commit to coming to at least three practices per week, but we get to be there every single day!

5) BIG plus if you have a car or if you can at least borrow a car for meets. Parents have been good about helping provide transportation to meets, but the more cars the better.

Lots of problems here:

1) Must be female? See the previous post about violation of federal laws. Also, there a lots of girls teams with two male coaches.

2) Coaches don't have to run with the athletes. This requirement may also be discriminatory. Would you turn down someone of Joe Vigil's caliber simply because he is too old to keep up with your runners?

3) If you're expecting to attract candidates with much experience, you're going to be disappointed. This is, after all, a middle school assistant coach position.

4) I'd love to address your 3-day-a-week requirement for your athletes, but that's off topic so I'll bite my lip.

5) Warning! If you, or your assistant, are driving the girls in your own car, you should be VERY sure the school has insurance coverage for you. That's not even addressing the topic of possibly having a girl alone in the car with you. Again, off topic, but a potentially very serious situation.

I heard Nancy Pelosi has some free time and she loves federal law!

Just hire a gay guy, they are all over the place in Frisco.

$2000? Is that a joke?

Hey litigious guys,

Instead of flaming about legalities, why not gently say 'what a great opportunity. it might be difficult to comply with all your PREFERENCES because of the law'.

I mean, this person is offering a job, and everyone is being a pain. Why?

Correcting grammar on this site is a pedantic bloodsport here, but that's fine, because it's not about anything real.

Here's a real job for someone who interested. I salute the coach who took the time to offer. I only hope other coaches or people in positions to hire won't be turned off by the lact of tact on this board.

Now, who can help this coach out and make a few bucks?

Duelist,

aren't you the starter of the thread?

DUELIST wrote:

Hey litigious guys,

Instead of flaming about legalities, why not gently say 'what a great opportunity. it might be difficult to comply with all your PREFERENCES because of the law'.

I mean, this person is offering a job, and everyone is being a pain. Why?

Correcting grammar on this site is a pedantic bloodsport here, but that's fine, because it's not about anything real.

Here's a real job for someone who interested. I salute the coach who took the time to offer. I only hope other coaches or people in positions to hire won't be turned off by the lact of tact on this board.

Now, who can help this coach out and make a few bucks?

There are serious issues -- legal and moral -- with the original post. These guys were trying to help the OP with some concrete, positive suggestions. Why would you want them to stop?

May be a legal problem but I see no moral issue with not hiring another guy to coach a team of young girls. c'mon everybody. poster: never say that you are limiting a job by gender, that is certainly discriminatory in almost all cases. However, you may make that call after you have opened the job up to all applicants. If I were a father to a middle school girl I would feel more comfortable having a good female assistant to balance it out so I understand where you are coming from. Discrimination is hard to prove in a court of law unless you just outright say it. I would recommend a follow up correcting this mistake and making the job available to all applicants to cover yourself. Thanks for posting the opportunity.

How about having your middle schoold daughter alone in a car with an adult male coach? This reeks of irresponsibility and has the potential for big trouble.

What the f is wrong with you a$$holes. Always negative.

"2) Coaches don't have to run with the athletes. This requirement may also be discriminatory. Would you turn down someone of Joe Vigil's caliber simply because he is too old to keep up with your runners?

3) If you're expecting to attract candidates with much experience, you're going to be disappointed. This is, after all, a middle school assistant coach position"

-- haha. on one hand you write that you shouldn't limit selection to someone who can keep up with the runners because you might get someone old who has experience, and in your next point, you write that you aren't going to get anyone with experience because it's a middle school position.

I should have been more specific about a few things.

I'm not officially responsible for filling this position. I'm not an HR person. I'm just a website developer who happens to coach kids a couple hours a day for a couple of months in the fall.

It's the job of the Athletic Director. I just happen to know that last year's head coach is not returning so I'm looking for some people who might be interested in helping me out in the coming season. Maybe I shouldn't say that you need to be a female, but use your head. It's a girls team at an all girls middle school. I really doubt that they'll go with another male to coach if they've got a female candidate. Think about it.

Any "requirements" I listed are based on my experience with the school and the team. Once again, I'm not an HR person who's in charge of the hiring process. I'm just hoping to find someone who I'll actually WANT to help me out rather than being stuck with someone the AD finds without me.

Sorry if I offended anyone. Don't worry, I'm not driving the girls around by myself and am careful to NEVER be alone with any single girl in any situation whatsoever.

The offer is still out there!

The OP is exposing the school to litigation from men who apply for this position and are rejected. I'm sure the district legal advisors would be thrilled to find out about this.

I'm a lawyer.

Let's sue.

Surprise! wrote:

What the f is wrong with you a$$holes. Always negative.

Nobody was being negative, dumbass. They were offering advice! If anyone is being negative, it's you.

If 2 guys coaching a girls team are not cutting it than maybe you should fire yourself and hire 2 females..You are kind of stupid..honestly...