I would like a few people to give me some advice for the 800m. The track season is 12 weeks long. The three major meets of the year are the Tues-Wed of week 10, the Wed of week 11 and state the Fri-Sat of week 12.
How would you go about planning out the season. Only a couple of the athletes could participate in any winter conditioning due to other sports. There are about 7-8 guys who have run in the past under 2:07 - with a goal of getting close to 2:00 or under. Any comments or training outlines would be appreciated. Thanks.
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You'll get more specific (and more helpful) suggestions from others. Before that, a general tip:
Be very wary of suggested plans that aim to turn your guys into distance runners! If most of your guys were doing other winter sports, those sports (what, wrestling? basketball?) *did* give them a base--just not a base of distance running.
Because training is a process of moving from where you are to where you have to be, you should look for plans that gradually move these guys from where they were at the end of the winter (lots of strength endurance? jumping ability? brief bursts of high speed?) to the sustained pace of the 800.
I'm not saying ignore distance running. I'm saying that it should be a supplement, and not the foundation, of the training for these kids.
I guess I'd also say to trust yourself, if you're the one who got these guys under 2:07 previously! You already know more about what will work in your situation than any of us (me particularly included).
Good luck, and please keep us posted on results. -
This is exactly the situation I am in and was in last year.
Obviously there are many ways to to get the to end of the year running fast, but "lease" has solid advice. These kids get will get into shape rather quickly, even though they have not done the traditional "endurance" base.
I think look at a Coe-esque multi-pace training theory. Don't be concerned about how fast these guys are running in the meets, because you'll likely see big jumps after about 5-6 weeks.
I've kind of trained these kids as 800/1600 guys, but raced them in 200/400 early in the season. gradually move them into 400/800, 800/1600 events. Variety is huge with these kids; don't neglect any aspect of fitness. Use what they already have and build on their weaknesses. -
This is exactly the situation I am in and was in last year.
Obviously there are many ways to to get the to end of the year running fast, but "lease" has solid advice. These kids get will get into shape rather quickly, even though they have not done the traditional "endurance" base.
I think look at a Coe-esque multi-pace training theory. Don't be concerned about how fast these guys are running in the first few meets, because you'll likely see big jumps after about 5-6 weeks. They will see other kids who have been doing more distance-specific training in the winter running faster right away and this can be motivating training wise and the gap always closes towards the end of the season.
I've kind of trained these kids as 800/1600 guys, but raced them in 200/400 early in the season- or maybe 1600/200 or 3200/400 at a meet. gradually move them into 400/800, then 800/1600 events. Variety is huge with these kids; don't neglect any aspect of fitness. Use what they already have and build on their weaknesses. -
This is exactly the situation I am in and was in last year.
Obviously there are many ways to to get the to end of the year running fast, but "lease" has solid advice. These kids get will get into shape rather quickly, even though they have not done the traditional "endurance" base.
I think look at a Coe-esque multi-pace training theory. Don't be concerned about how fast these guys are running in the first few meets, because you'll likely see big jumps after about 5-6 weeks. They will see other kids who have been doing more distance-specific training in the winter running faster right away and this can be motivating training wise and the gap always closes towards the end of the season.
I've kind of trained these kids as 800/1600 guys, but raced them in 200/400 early in the season- or maybe 1600/200 or 3200/400 at a meet. gradually move them into 400/800, then 800/1600 events. Variety is huge with these kids; don't neglect any aspect of fitness. Use what they already have and build on their weaknesses. -
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hill city wrote:
I think look at a Coe-esque multi-pace training theory. Don't be concerned about how fast these guys are running in the meets, because you'll likely see big jumps after about 5-6 weeks.
I've kind of trained these kids as 800/1600 guys, but raced them in 200/400 early in the season. gradually move them into 400/800, 800/1600 events. Variety is huge with these kids; don't neglect any aspect of fitness. Use what they already have and build [gradually/progressively] on their weaknesses.
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