as opposed to a british pacer ?
Paula ran solo the whole way. What's your point?
as opposed to a british pacer ?
shoud be obvious
she'd have been the pacer for the chinese gal if she'd been in paris
So Kim was giving drugs to Komen, but not Bob Kennedy?
Derek Clayton's 2:08:33 in December 1969.
i've heard rumours on other bbs that that course may have been short
course length coudn't been verified later as part of the course went thru a major re-development
take another puff ventolin and chill. You've been wiped.Time to let it go and move on.
Not sure how radcliffe's run is in there with some of the others but anyway sounds and looks like it was a monster effort.
might be worth putting up some "hard" numbers for paula in '02 :
she ran 8'22.20 / 14'31+ / 30'01 / 2"17+ that year
now, that 3k was off a slowish 2k split of ~5'37 ( ~8'25 pace ) & probably more like 8'21.0 if ideally run
her 14'31 was a nonsense as she jogged around for 600m & then charged off - her last 4400m ( solo ) was at ~ 14'26 pace - definitely couda smashed wr that day if run hard from gun & knock some more off that if she'd had a pacer to 3k
10k obviously shouda been quicker for reasons discussed above
one solid time to work with above is 8'21.0
need another one :
in her book she said she ran a 4'01 tt in training around that era
i'd in fact have to give her 3'59 - 4'01 as a range :
8'21.0 / 3'59.0 -> ~
57.89 , 14'23.25 , 30'03.17 , 66'19 , 2"18'01
8'21.0 / 4'00.0 -> ~
58.66 , 14'20.79 , 29'51.59 , 65'39 , 2"16'14
8'21.0 / 4'01.0 -> ~
59.44 , 14'18.34 , 29'40.01 , 65'00 , 2"14'26
4'01 looks too slow for her as times indicated are too quick
around 4'00 looks about right - maybe a fraction quicker, something like 3'59.5 - 3'59.75
3'59.75 / 8'21.0 -> ~
58.47 , 14'21.41 , 29'54.48 , 65'49 , 2"16'40
3'59.5 / 8'21.0 -> ~
58.27 , 14'22.02 , 29'57.38 , 65'59 , 2"17'07
somewhere between the last 2 lines looks about right
certainly indicates she was capable of <4'00 that year, destroying the 5k wr & obviously <30'00 ( but likely not below <29'55 )
no doubt Kenenisa's performance in cross country. No body in these world will performe like kenenisa 12 world gold including the junior title.
Head spinning, I remember the day, Steve Jones waving to the crowd 2 ticks off world record and 50,000.00 bonus and he didn't care. For us observers, this was the first time in history, we started to believe that one day a person will break 2 hours for marathon. For a man who ran off of guts, speed and determination, perhaps under trained as a marathoner, that day turned the world upside down in the world of marathoning. Forever remembered, and truely imspired by the force and spirit of this run.
Steve Jones. 1985 Chicago Marathon. 2:07:13, one tick off the then WR. It's the Greatest because he ran 26.2 out front, alone, by himself. No pacers, nothing. Pure GUTS!
he went for it. No holding back. the Greatest performance ever!
How about Kevin Young's 46.78 run in the 400 hurdles? Edwards triple jump is up there too, and Johnson's 200m
If we are to include championship racing and winning medals, I doubt anything can top Zatopek's triple gold at 5k, 10k, and Marathon DEBUT. Apparently Lasse Viren tried to reproduce this but came up 4th in the marathon and he was one of the greatest of all time.
I vote for Komen's 7:20.