Women In Speedos

Mr Move On,

Do you contradict yourself with every post? You have the time to comment on spelling and tell then every one to move on. Your like some ones mother. Move on bitch

actually, I think he means bought, not brought.

How did this become a spelling bitches thread. I want to talk about them butthuggers.

I like the big bootie girls. There ain't nothin wrong with a girl with a little bump to her rump. Girls keep showin them big booties.

Are you really so much of an attention slut that you can not write a reply in a civil tone? or are you that much of a jerk? Is it really necessary to be so severe in your approach? Of course an eating disorder is an individual problem but why not try and keep your mouth shut about it or in this case your fingers still?

Your strident view about accepting responsibility for one\'s actions is commendable. I am not advocating any position that suggests the cause or cure for someone\'s eating disorder is ultimately anybody else\'s choice but their own. However, as part of a community you may wish to consider your position in relation to the overall good. Is it not better to try and help people or at very least not do harm with your words and actions.

Masn, I hat the dame buknnhuggers. Bring back the reguklar ould shorts. Eery since the days fo VAlierie Disco Brooks and Chandra cheesehad, they've been dsisgracing track. Hey, remember Boulmerka winning the 1500 in 92? She didn't need em.

Answer - So then Addy, your answer to someone with an eating disorder is to ignore it?! Yeah, that's helpful. Here's what you said - "why not try and keep your mouth shut about it". What good does that do? I sure hope none of your friends or immediate family members have a serious problem in which they need an intervention, because they will just go to their grave with it if it were up to you. And, how is my bluntness hurtful? You people do not know me, and I do not know you. There is no better place than an anonymous message board to both give and receive a kick in the pants when necessary, and when a woman complains that a man's comment about women is going to cause an eating disorder, then a kick in the pants is needed. Would I be so direct with a friend of mine if she had an eating disorder in my first broach of the subject - NO. I would though, offer to help her seek help, and then if after several attempts she did not, then perhaps I would be caustic and do everything I could to make her go for treatment, because a slow death via an eating disorder is not a pleasant thing - don't know if you've ever experienced it with someone you know, but I have twice - one woman bought a shotgun at KMart and blew her head off, and the other looked like a skeleton and had open sores on her skin all over until she finally got a hold of it.

You've asked me to reconsider my position for the overall good. What exactly is the position you are referring to? Telling a woman with an insane comment (which shows she has a thought process that is potentially damaging to herself) that she needs to accept responsibility for her actions? If that is the position to reconsider, then I will not. It is you Addy who needs to reconsider your position. In this case, I will not tell others to "Move on" because it might be necessary for me to further enlighten some more of you. No reasonable person can possibly find fault with what I have said above, and if Addy you still are in disagreement with me, then you are unreasonable.

Answer - You mean to write - "You're like someone's mother. Move on bitch."

Couple of misspellings and a lack of a period you had there. Until you can match wits with me (which will be never) you can "Move on".

Match wits wit you? Your wit went only as far as my miss- spelling. Nitwit.

Answer - Hamid, you have way too much country building to be bothering with trying to match wits with me (which you are unsuccessful in doing - the wit matching that is, not the country building). You wrote - "Match wits wit you?" You meant to write - Match wits WITH you?" Try again if you like, but then I will have to taunt you a second time. I advise you to "Move on".

I cant believe you can still be baited. Match wits wit you? and you responded with you meant to write. How Stupid! and gullible

No someone with an eating order should not ignore it. I'm sure you know that's not what I was suggesting. Although I didn't think it would be so difficult for you to understand, my point was that there was no need to be rude marython.

I am sorry for your experience with eating disorders. In your situation If you'll read my original post carefully, then you will find that I agree with your comments about responsibility. Offering support and help is appropriate. Your post in response to marython was neither. I will not even try to address the sanity of the post in question with you.

Answer - It's too bad that your idea of support and help means cajoling rather than making someone face the harsh reality that their way of thinking with regard to food is destructive. The approach that you suggest is neither helpful nor supportive, mine is. When marython made that ridiculous statement, that is bad enough that she believes that, but it is even worse if other young women might read that and see that they have support at least from one person that their eating habits can be determined by the comment of another person. I am not offering therapy because I am not a therapist, I am however, recognizing that someone with the mindset of marython needs to seek therapy or risk damage to herself. If I didn't care about the health and welfare of people, I wouldn't have said anything. Apparently you are the type of person who when someone in the street yells "rape" you will just close your window so that you don't have to hear it. I on the other hand would go down there and beat the hell out of the perpetrator. You tell me which person is more valuable to a community.

And, you can't just hope that the person with the eating disorder will recognize on their own that they have a problem. Many times you have to force them to look at what they are doing to themselves and those around them with their destructive behavior. Even then, this usually takes several tries over time to get them to realize the errors of their ways, but outside intervention is definitely the key. The probelm you had in trying to debate me on this issue is that you believe that I am a troll just looking to pick fights with people for my own entertainment and that I would just slink away - nothing could be further from the truth. marython had a major flaw in her thinking which could be destructive if left unchecked, and on this message board when someone says something idiotic, I will let them know it. Do I think I am smarter than most? Yes. Do I think that I am more insightful than most? Yes. Can other people provide a good point once in a while? Yes. Has it happened yet on this issue other than mine? No. People in the U.S. want everything to be easy. They want to say things that are always PC. They want everyone to like them and to feel that they are caring and compassionate. To be caring and compassionate, it doesn't require one to be either blind or to give a person with an illness false hope. It is hard to face your problems and shoot them down - people don't like it when you tell them they need to, but in the case of anorexia or bulemia, it is a matter of life and death that you do so.

On a side note, I think it should be recognized that most of these spelling errors are simply typos - (wit, braught, etc.) It should also be noted that even if a person is not a good/accurate speller it does not mean that they are "stupid". I believe that intelligent people are able to discuss many sides of an issue without asserting their superiority. Answer Man, I think you have made several valid points and I am very interested in your experiences with women/eating disorders as I currently have a colleague that I am quite concerned about.

1)You did not capitalize marython after the period

2)The lack of commas makes your thaughts appear to "run on".

Q - Nice try, but here are the answers for you:

1) I didn't capitilize marython because that is how she referred to herself - in an uncapitalized way. Since she made up the name, she gets to determine how it is presented. You will notice that I refer to winner as winner but JEH as JEH.

2) Commas are used primarily in three ways: 1)to set off a series; 2)to separate a dependent clause from an independent clause; and 3)to separate two independent clauses in conjunction with a conjunction. You don't just insert commas wherever you want to, and my comma usage is correct.

3) You, in your short note, misspelled "thoughts".

4) Why torture yourself so in attempting to topple me?

The real epidemic in eating disorders is those that can't say no to seconds. Anorexia, etc. has nothing to do with running. The Answer Man has it right. Take some responsiblity for what is going on in your life.

This is obviously an issue that causes you to become particularly agitated. Sadly, what you're missing is that when it comes to dealing with an eating disorder on an individual case, I agree with much of what you have said.

Again, my original post was intended to point out that it's not necessary to be rude to make your point.

Speaking from the female perspective, which I am surmising that you are not, I do agree with those who have commented on the discomfort one can feel in such attire. I think that marython was out of line in linking insulting comments with eating disorders. BUT is it really necessary for some of the derogatory remarks that have been made to be stated? Is there a problem with being sensitive to those who have to wear such uniforms? What good does it do to be insulting? Women are not wearing these for your viewing pleasure so is their any point in commenting on the size of their thighs?

Answer - seemeflip, even though you have criticized me a bit, I will overlook that and not put you in your place there since you have also sought my advice. It is my number one goal in life to be the one that makes the part of the world that I touch a better place, so I will give you my advice here in the hopes that you will help your friend.

Here are things that I know:

1) You can have an eating disorder (usually bulemia) and not be overly thin. Another friend of mine (other than the two I mentioned) had about a one-year bout with bulemia and she was probably about 25 or so pounds overweight at the time. She did this in secret of course, but it was discovered when she blacked out while driving, and then the doctors noticed she had erosion of her teeth which happened over the course of a year with her vomiting and the stomach acid attacking the teeth. Usually dentists are the first to notice this behavior, but she hadn't been to one during that time. She changed her ways, adopted healthy eating and exercise, beat the eating disorder and is now fit, at a healthy weight, and gorgeous.

2) The woman I know who killed herself had a family who was in denial about her problem.

3) The woman (well, she was in high school then, so I guess she was a girl) who had the skin sores was the number 1 on the girls cross country team, and she had tons of support from her family, our coach, her teammates, and she kicked it. She lost 7 years after high school battling the illness, but she finally prevailed and then went to college 7 years late. Many of us contacted her and visited her in the hospital for years (she was in and out). She is now no longer super thin like she was, but she is much healthier.

I don't know why you are concerened with your friend, but I will assume you have good reason to be. In that case, I would definitely talk to her about it. I'd start by telling her that you are concerened about her and then list the reasons why. Don't tell her that if there's anything you can do to help to just let you know. That does no good. Go to her prepared to tell her how you ARE going to help. Look in the phone book. Call some places. Many will be able to tell you how to approach a friend to get them to make the committment to get help. If you think it is necessary, contact some of her other friends and family members who feel the same that you do and plan an intervention. This is where you all approach her and tell her of your concerns and then provide the options for a solution. You cannot involve someone who doesn't think she has a problem. Granted, it is possible that she doesn't have a problem, but if you think there are signs, then it is more than reasonable to let her know of your concerns.

Known signs of eating disorders (not all would apply to the same person):

1) Never eats in public

2) Immediately goes to bathroom after eating

3) Serious dental decay or gum problems

4) Overly tired

5) Horrifically thin

6) Blackouts

7) Frequently sick

8) Never eats anything with fat or sugar in it

9) Cuts food into remarkably tiny pieces

10) Takes an inordinate amount of time to eat

11) Makes disparaging comments about herself as far as body type goes

12) Perfectionist or overacheiver (this is a common trait and not really a sign of an eating disorder)

While you didn't say so, I assume that the person with whom you are concerned is a woman. I have actually known one guy who had problems. He was a wrestler and had to make weight, and then when the season was over he couldn't get himself to eat again. Sometimes when you set a habit into motion, regardless of the reason, it becomes hard to break. He finally did, but his parents would not let him wrestle anymore, and he was third in the state (OH) as a junior.

Be prepared to be met with resistance. She might even be mad at you and not talk to you for a long time, but if you are really concerened about her then you will do what is necessary. You are a wonderful person for showing the concern that you do. Some people rest on that as being enough. Please take that next step and save her life.