Yeah, the fast kenyan club started about 3 years ago or so... I think that the winning time was 15:05 or so in the 5k in '05 I mean come on.. I miss those days to. The only chance for the typical white kid to do well in juco is at XC.. Track you just gotta go for times and hit the standard for Nationals now. Rend Lake has 5 Kenyans... 5 Kenyans that is a little exsesive don't you think. Oh and I think Fred is only 19 or 20 so he isn't super old compared to Daniel Mania who was like 25 or 26 last year running against John Kosegi who was actually only 21 and just turned it in december.. And look what race he is in.. The big boy heat of Tyson in the mile.. Only 3 college runners and I think Leo dropped so its down to Two now.. Gonna be fast. If you didn't see John Kosegi's mile find it on flotrack his kick is amazing.