What Pro runners will retire in 2008?

nj Bill wrote:

Lagat won't go near the Olympics if they're testing for epo or repoxygen.... guys like this come up with mysterious injuries before the trials yet will run on the lucraive Euro circuit where they don't test....Lagat is our Barry Bonds, ain't that some sad shit.

There's not one accurate phrase in your rant.

Just guessing....

Sullivan, Goucher, Lagat, Sell, Broe, khannouchi, Dan Brown

You do know that Coach Vigil was completely against the strategy that Deena took at the 04' Olympics in the marathon, right? He said so in front of the group at the marathon summit when Dr. Martin presented all his info and ideal strategies.

Vigil did not have his hands in Meb's training and he most certainly cannot tag his name to Ryan Hall's accomplishments.

Did Coach Vigil do some big things back in the day? Yes.

Has Coach Vigil had his share of failures? Yes.

A good coach that certainly did much for distance running but not the end all be all that his followers make him out to be.

Terrance has done an outstanding job and should get the credit for what he and HIS athletes have been doing.

dropout wrote:

nj Bill wrote:

Lagat won't go near the Olympics if they're testing for epo or repoxygen.... guys like this come up with mysterious injuries before the trials yet will run on the lucraive Euro circuit where they don't test....Lagat is our Barry Bonds, ain't that some sad shit.

There's not one accurate phrase in your rant.

ask yourself, did you believe there were WMD's in iraq? you probably did. so shut the fk up. extreme suspicion towards the "elite" is a very rational attitude to have these days. god damn criminals.

with that said, i'm giving my boo the gulf of tonkin tonight. anyone ever try that one?

fiddler on roofies wrote:

with that said, i'm giving my boo the gulf of tonkin tonight. anyone ever try that one?

What's that?

If Gebrselassie wins the Olympic Marathon then he should probably retire. This guy has been around ages i remember in 1993 when he won his first senior title.

A win next year would see him go down as the greatest athlete (not just distance runner) ever. Unbelieveable talent.

I believe Tergat will also bow out in 2008.

If you believe Lagat is on drugs then you are probly one of those who believe that he has been on them for some time. if so, explain why he has competed in two olympic games. I'm sure the people at Athens were testing. If they werent, my bad, but I would guess that they were

Hmm, remind me, did Marion Jones ever get popped for EPO at the Olympics?

BOHICA wrote:

Hmm, remind me, did Marion Jones ever get popped for EPO at the Olympics?

+BOOYAH! SCORE GOES TO PROSECUTION! THANKYOU! DEFENDANT, WILL YOU PLEASE TAKE THE STAND.

-lower your voice in the courtroom."

+yes your honor.

BOHICA wrote:

Hmm, remind me, did Marion Jones ever get popped for EPO at the Olympics?

Hmmm, good point, sometimes even the Olympic officials look the other way. After they dq'd Ben Johnson they found Flo Jo to be dirty too but they could not fathom the idea of announcing to the world that the whole damn sport was corrupt so they let her slide. Eventually, she got hers.

Lagat is dirty, Geb more so, and anyone who believes in 26:20 ten k's does this sport a tremendous disservice. Sadly, the American distance runners who know the truth don't have the moral integrity to tell us what they know....

You limit yourself. Tell us all how fast is too fast, so we can know to not run one second faster.

mobile9 wrote:

(You limit yourself. Tell us all how fast is too fast, so we can know to not run one second faster.

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There is no limits with drugs...Without drugs we never know the limits. Performance enhancing druggies are scum.

My research concludes that epo gives a runner an 10 second per mile boost. 2:06 marathons are really 2:10's when you add the 10 second per mile rule, and 3:43 miles ain't nothing but 3:53s....What ever did happen to Hi-Sham El G.s teammate who ran 3:43 for the mile and then got bagged for epo?

[quote]There is no limits with drugs...Without drugs we never know the limits. [quote]

Sure there are. Most of the womens world records are held by drug users and many of them are OLD records. Assuming that drug use has continued up to the present, no one (clean or on drugs) has come close to the women's 400 and 800 records from the 70s and 80s, Flojo's records in the late 80s, and the Chinese records in the early 90s, all drug aided. Marion Jones ran fast while on drugs but stil nowhere near the world record. This probably means the drugs used in the old days (before out of comp testing) were more effective than what Jones used (which had to pass much more frequent tests).

Good post, Les, but what do you do with mutts like mobile9? People like him aid and encourage druggies.

Ain't it the truth about Flo Jo. They let her slide but then demanded she retire.

Remember how she pretty much came home from Seoul and announced her retirement? I always remember thinking there was some serious dirt swept under the rug.

What multiple gold medalist retires and doesn't take advantage of all the racing opportunities the following year. She was told to get out and stay out.

Just like the Catholic church and the pedophile scandal. The autocratic hierarchy can't face the truth about how deep the dirt goes. So they cover everything up. Remember one Ollan Cassell? Call him up and ask him all about this. Make sure to give him truth serum first.

Just like the Catholic church and the pedophile scandal. The autocratic hierarchy can't face the truth about how deep the dirt goes.

Cheap shot vs. the Church. More of a problem with your teachers and their unions that protect them. Let us ban all homos from teaching, the clergy and the armed services.

reservoir dogs wrote:

What multiple gold medalist retires and doesn't take advantage of all the racing opportunities the following year.

off of the top of my head, El G. I'm sure there are lots of others as well. Not quite the same, but Bannister never raced after 1954.

We Tall Did wrote:

Just guessing....

Sullivan maybe,especially if he fails to run under 3:33, Goucherno way he goes this early, not unless there's a ridiculous injury, like his leg falling off, Lagatif he wins either gold, he's as good as gone, Sellprobably...the only thing that'd keep him around would be if he manages to pull a Jon Brown, Broeisn't he already? does anyone know for sure, khannouchiif he can't break 2:08 or better next year, he's out, Dan BrownI don't know why, but I just have this idea that he might milk the 10k road scene for everything he can

stefano baldini says the olympic marathon in beijing will probably be his retirement race from top level competition, also toshinari takaoka the japanese marathon national record holder 20616