This is all pointless. Could any of you little distance wimps go out and play one series of NFL football. NO!! That is why you are nothing but hamsters on a wheel!
This is all pointless. Could any of you little distance wimps go out and play one series of NFL football. NO!! That is why you are nothing but hamsters on a wheel!
Shut Up wrote:
This is all pointless. Could any of you little distance wimps go out and play one series of NFL football. NO!! That is why you are nothing but hamsters on a wheel!
Why in the world would anyone want to go get into a pile of big sweaty gorillas? You go have fun with that, I'll go for a run...
Just going by the guys on my college team I would say that nobody in the NFL is currently capable of running a sub 10 minute 2 mile. First off, the football season is not actually very good at getting you in shape. Most practices are spent running plays, not conditioning. Secondly, most of the athletes that do train only train for short bursts of activity, after all they only have to work hard for 8-10 seconds, try running a sub 10 2-mile when you walk the curves.
The idea that nfl players would make the fastest sprinters is also a false idea. As, in my experience, football speed and track speed are two very different subjects. In football you are not running in a straight line, and you are wearing several pounds of extra clothing, not too mention you have people hitting you and shoes that are designed more for lateral mobility and traction than for speed. In track you go in a straight line as fast as you can. Guys who appear fast on the football field may just accelerate quickly, or be able to handle the weight of their pads without slowing more easily, or perhaps they have the right muscles strengthened to be able to shrug off contact from opposing players. Therefore, while a person may be a fast track man they could slow down considerably on the football field and a person who runs circles around football players may not fair so well in a straight dash.
Finally, anybody could play a series in the nfl, we just might not do all that well. Not everybody is capable of running continuously for two miles.
No.......I wasn't an Annie......but I am blonde and I was a cheerleader!!!
"This is so pathetic........who cares if college or NFL players can run a certain time? I am sure they don't....while they are basking in the glory of their teams, or counting their money. And all of you doofus's that talk about beating someone as a sophomore in high school...sheesh! Get over it! Football players are a different breed....they are atop the food chain.....and they swat you little puny distance runners away like the annoying flies that you are. Face it....you do something different than they do...and your sport will NEVER EVER get the glory that theirs does. And it will NEVER change. But you will more than likely be a much healthier and longer lived person than they.....having never subjected your bodies to the punishment that they do. The path divided in the fall...those you have the size and skill to play football and the rest of you......who find something else to do. You guys need to get your heads out of your butts and work on your personalities....then you might have girlfriends someday. Or get laid...."
Classy.
Incidentally, I had the size and skill to play Division I football, and was offered several scholarships to do so. I turned it down because I hate football. It's dominated by a classless, arrogant, unethical idiocracy. I ran track instead and have no cause to regret it.
I'm now over 40 and run distance to stay in shape, and once you've put some time into it you can't believe how much effort and discipline elite distance runners have. I can't even imagine logging over 140+ mpw consistently; it's far more impressive to me than anything anybody in the NFL does, in part because it would be more difficult for me to do, and in part because it depends far more on effort and far less on innate attributes.
are you kidding me wrote:
No.......I wasn't an Annie......but I am blonde and I was a cheerleader!!!
You are also a TROLL.
quote]my input wrote:
"This is so pathetic........who cares if college or NFL players can run a certain time? I am sure they don't....while they are basking in the glory of their teams, or counting their money. And all of you doofus's that talk about beating someone as a sophomore in high school...sheesh! Get over it! Football players are a different breed....they are atop the food chain.....and they swat you little puny distance runners away like the annoying flies that you are. Face it....you do something different than they do...and your sport will NEVER EVER get the glory that theirs does. And it will NEVER change. But you will more than likely be a much healthier and longer lived person than they.....having never subjected your bodies to the punishment that they do. The path divided in the fall...those you have the size and skill to play football and the rest of you......who find something else to do. You guys need to get your heads out of your butts and work on your personalities....then you might have girlfriends someday. Or get laid...."
Classy.
Incidentally, I had the size and skill to play Division I football, and was offered several scholarships to do so. I turned it down because I hate football. It's dominated by a classless, arrogant, unethical idiocracy. I ran track instead and have no cause to regret it.
I'm now over 40 and run distance to stay in shape, and once you've put some time into it you can't believe how much effort and discipline elite distance runners have. I can't even imagine logging over 140+ mpw consistently; it's far more impressive to me than anything anybody in the NFL does, in part because it would be more difficult for me to do, and in part because it depends far more on effort and far less on innate attributes.[/quote]
D1 football full ride, and you are in here??? NOT!
do you know how many more football full rides there are than track/cc? not all of us were runners when we left for college, smart guy. i also had offers to play a more "popular" sport, not football but considering my size i probably could have if i'd put on some weight, turned them down to work on my studies, and in my 20's ran 14's for 5k, probably faster than your sorry ass who was a skinny runner all in high school and college.
are football players some sort of gods to you? you realize most end up working at lowes or something after they graduate.
Football players are not elite athletes. They are elite football players who play a game very well. They lift well, are conditioned well, but are not amazing athletes. Elite implies that they are elite in several athletic domains. Football is a joke and people give the players more credit than they deserve.
elite_athletes? wrote:
Football players are not elite athletes. They are elite football players who play a game very well. They lift well, are conditioned well, but are not amazing athletes. Elite implies that they are elite in several athletic domains. Football is a joke and people give the players more credit than they deserve.
I'd say that "elite" implies excellence in a particular domain, so elite football players are elite, but I agree with your general point; the vast, vast majority of football players are moderately talented athletes who play a game very well.
I call high school sophomore on this one.
"Swat you puny distance runners away like the annoying flies that you are"? "You guys need to get your heads out of your butts and work on your personalities....then you might have girlfriends someday. Or get laid...."? Only the owners of penises write stuff like that.
Now, if you are married to a former NFL player, you should get him to come out and write a book about it. People would admire you for your courage.
I dontk now if this has already been said because I dont have time to read through 7 pages of this, but I know Brian Moorman (Punter for the Bills) was a D2 national champ in the 400 hurdles and now runs every day. I would imagine that kind of speed could maybe carry him to a sub 10 2-mile.
Many world-class decathletes don't run sub 5 min. miles during their 1500. I doubt that any world-class decathlete could run double the distance at the same pace.
You can say that the decathletes aren't as talented as football players, but remember, the rest of the world doesn't have the NFL sucking off their decathlon talent...
I'm more than willing to bet that there are a decent number of cornerbacks or wide receivers out there that could probably go sub-10 right now.
and as for those that could do so with training, that is a big difference between us and other nations (namely kenya and ethiopia) their heroes are guys like Geb and Tergat, not LT, Peyton Manning, or John Elway...the American running community would be a complete powerhouse if our best athletes didn't go into football (and basketball for that matter)
manonspeed wrote:
the American running community would be a complete powerhouse if our best athletes didn't go into football (and basketball for that matter)
More rampant speculation and undue homage to NFL & NBA athletic ability. The guys are no doubt the best football and basketball players, but quit making them out to be gods of all sport.
Killa Mike wrote:
Ted Ginn was one of the greatest HS track athletes in the last 25 years. He isn't blowing by anyone in the NFL now is he? Devin Hester with training would smoke anyone we've got.
Actually ginn is blowing by people in the NFL moron. Don't make statements based upon flat out stats, if you'd actually watched him and saw what happens whne he gets in the open he makes other NFL'ers look silly. Ginn would leave Hester in his dust. Have a clue before posting. Hester is a great returner, probably the best ever, but his speed is severely lacking compared to ginns. When you watch them in open field Ginn seperates so much faster then Hester does. Adrian Peterson is faster then Hester as well.
I didn't read this whole thread, so sorry if someone already said this...but Devin Hester could in my opinion. I dont even think he needs to train for it, it would be close, I'd give him a 9:55 without training
boraden it to All-Timers....Jim Thorpe!!
Jim Thorpe is from a very different era of sport, when being well rounded athletically was thought to be best way towards excellence. Now sports are about specialized training.
Secondly, I don't think anyone on this board who says that NFL stars can't run under 10min is somehow trying to stroek their own ego ( because running sub-10 isn't that impressive), nor are they diminishing the abilities of those player on the Football field. It's a ridiculous question meant to induce a lighthearted debate.
elite_athletes? wrote:
Football players are not elite athletes.
To paraphrase a famous scientist, "you aren't even wrong."
1) Financial incentive. Do we really need to rehash all the great sprinters who forgo track careers to warm the pine in the NFL?
2) Clearly, you have never set foot on a field with an NBA or NFL player. The worst DB in the NFL would destroy every single person who has ever posted on this board in a competition that measured overall athletic ability.