Are ther any NFL guys that could go sub 10 in the 2 mile?

Killa Mike wrote:

Running routes all day and catching balls is not going to 'de-train' someone from being able to run sub 10 that could do it already.

I think it would, although I was thinking more along the lines of weight training and running routes. I also think that anyone who can naturally run under 10 min will also naturally never EVER be in the NFL.

Here's another way of thinking about it: could Geb or Tergat be starting corners on a pretty good high school football team? I think so. A 10-minute 2-mile isn't THAT fast. It's faster than I could run, but it's not inhuman.

There are a few guys in the NFL that could do it (there are almost 2,000 of them!), but not every corner could do it, no.

Someone should ask Josh Cox. His brother in law, DJ, is a National Scout with the Cleveland Browns.

http://www.clevelandbrowns.com/team/frontoffice_detail.php?id=267

hannibal wrote:

Here's another way of thinking about it: could Geb or Tergat be starting corners on a pretty good high school football team?

Um, Geb is 123 lbs and just under 5'5". If he played in our annual backyard football game I would light him up.

I don't know how much better Tergat would fare at 6 feet, 136 lbs. These guys are starting on any team, much less a pretty good one.

Of course I meant they're NOT starting on any team.

Doug Flutie throws a 5k every year here in Massachusetts. He would run it even during his playing years.

He could never break 20 minutes.

Flutie was a pretty fast player in the NFL

Brian Moorman; the allstar punter for the Buffalo Bills, was a 49 second intermediate hurdler in college at Pittsburg State U. (kansas). I'm pretty sure he could do it.

Former Footballer wrote:

Are there any NFL guys that could go sub 10 in the 2 mile RIGHT NOW?

No. Not even the kickers. Not right now. These guys are over 200 lbs. They have no slow twitch muscles. They have no endurance. It is just not going to happen.

I'm 214 lbs right now and have zero fast twitch muscles. I've also run a 10:10 2 mile in the last 6 weeks off of pretty good training. I would think that a nfl cornerback or wide reciever would be able to beat my goofy-ass stride around the track for 8 laps.

Rice & Taylor wrote:

I'm 214 lbs right now and have zero fast twitch muscles. I've also run a 10:10 2 mile in the last 6 weeks off of pretty good training.

With zero fast twitch muscles, you are going to have better endurance than the guys who are chock full of them.

here is your man wrote:

Brian Moorman; the allstar punter for the Buffalo Bills, was a 49 second intermediate hurdler in college at Pittsburg State U. (kansas). I'm pretty sure he could do it.

How on earth do you figure you can guess someone's 2 mile based on a 400IH time?

Played football at an Ohio football factory and have lived for over 20 years in Western PA(another high school football battleground). It is not unusual for the 800 record to still be barely under 2 minutes at schools that regularly produce sprinters who end up in the Div. I football and the NFL.

There is a tremendous difference in natural gifts between a teenager who plays football and runs the sprints and another who can break 50 sec. in 400 and even moreso in one who can break 2 minutes in the half. Someone who can bench 300 lbs. and run a 4.4 forty is entirely unsuited for the 3200.

There have been quite a few NFL players who have tried to run marathons in their thirties with Gallowalk results.

here is your man wrote:

Brian Moorman; the allstar punter for the Buffalo Bills, was a 49 second intermediate hurdler in college at Pittsburg State U. (kansas). I'm pretty sure he could do it.

I would be impressed to see a 49 second IH guy go sub-ten, and I would be even more impressed to see him go sub-ten after bulking up and training specifically for football. I don't doubt that some of the NFL guys are versatile enough to run sub-10 with specific training, but no one devoting themselves to a career in producing extremely short bursts of top speed will have that kind of endurance.

What about Robert Smith of the Vikings when he was playing during the mid 1990's?

Didnt he run 45.+ on the 4 x 400 at Penn Relays in 1992 or 1993?

Certainly he would have been able to run sub 2:00 in the 800M.

- Philip Passen

Ethan Farrell wrote:

I know a guy, a kicker albeit, who played football in college and still might be playing NFL Europe. He ran 1:52 and 14:46 for 3 miles in high school. So with the hundreds of players in the NFL, there is bound to be somebody who can break 10 minutes.

We probably know the same person then-Nick Setta was a hell of a runner in high school.

The thread about Mo Greene's mile time was way more interesting then this NFL-2 mile question.

i spit my drink up all over my computer when i read this post, absolutely hilarious

Personal: Born Nicholas Setta on May 6, 1981 in Lockport, Illinois…brother, Piero, played football at the College of Saint Francis and soccer at Illinois Benedictine…attended Lockport Township High (Ill.) School…named first-team All-American by USA Today and first-team All-State by The Chicago Tribune at Lockport Township High (Ill.) School…three-time all-conference and team MVP…Selected for Illinois state all-star game…four-time team captain…rated number-one kicker in the country coming out of high school…listed by Dallas Morning News as one of top 100 national prospects (and one of only two kickers on list)…first-team all-state punter on Chicago Tribune team in both 1997 and 1998…rated 13th on Detroit Free-Press Best of the Midwest team…punted 39 times for 47.8-yard average as senior in 1998, including boots of 68, 61 and 60 yards…hit 11 of 22 field goals in 1998 (including two from 49 yards out) and 29 of 33 extra points…threw for two touchdowns in 1998 on fake field goal situations…hit field goals from 45 and 47 yards in 1998 season opener…put 90 percent of his kickoffs into end zone…hit 11 of 15 field goals as junior…hit the crossbar on 72-yard field goal attempt vs. Wheaton Warrenville South in 1997 Class 6A playoff opener…kicked Illinois state record 59-yard field goal as sophomore in 1996 vs. Bloom…averaged 46.7 yards per punt as junior, with 27 of 64 kickoffs going for touchbacks … four-time team captain in football…three-time all-conference pick and three-time team MVP…finished with 38 career field goals…won four letters in both cross country and track and field…finished sixth in Illinois state track and field meet in high jump as junior and also ranked as top hurdler…four-time team captain and MVP in both cross country and track…had bests of 1:53.4 in 800 meters, 3:59 in 1,500 meters, and 6-10 in high jump…finished 11th in Illinois state cross country meet in 1998, fifth in 1997 and helped Lockport to Illinois state cross country crowns in 1996 and 1997.

Killa Mike wrote:

I was a starter for my high school football team and ran under 4:20 for 1 mile that same track season.

And you played high school football (big difference), plus you were on the track team and trained for the mile during the track season.

wasn't there a pennsylvania distance runner who ran sub-4:10 in high school and was also starting point guard on his basketball team? maybe craig miller? a lot of point guards are also starting quarterbacks. so, i think that if we dig deep, we'll find a number of sub-10 high schoolers who played quarterback or wideout, etc. on the football team. however, first, it would be hard to play football and cross country at the same time, and without xc it's tough to get in great endurance shape for track. and second, you have to put on a lot of muscle and weight between high school and the pros to make it in the nfl, and that muscle and weight is really going to militate against any sub-10 2 miles. I say no one in the league could do it now and at least a dozen could have done it when they were younger, given specific training, an appropriate diet for distance running, little weight training, etc. some of those guys could probably do it within a year or two if they dropped the football training and eating and weightlifting.