d10 wrote:
Agreed. Rupp and the Ducks are overrated. Not denying that Rupp has a good shot at the title based on his 10K, but I think Lomong is way more likely to come through, especially in a championship race. Look for Colorado and Iona on top of the podium. Wouldn't that be sweet (for my fellow oregon haters) if 1-2-3 was some mix of Iona, Colorado, and Wisco... No. 1 Oregon doesn't even make the podium?
But PRE runs for Oregon! Oh wait, that was 35 years ago. I want Colorado to win.
haha, wow. letsrun at its finest.
I figured when i wrote "UTEP has a history..." people would be intelligent enough to figure out that I was talking about this CURRENT UTEP team under their CURRENT coach with many of the same CURRENT runners. Same goes for Iona. And as far as I can tell, Iona's trophy case from the last 5 years is heavier than UTEPs.
Of course I am aware that in the early 80's they won titles decisevly, but that isn't really relevant to this year, now is it?
Maybe the people on here are less intelligent than I thought.
"u must be in grade school."
I just wanted everyone to see that again for irony's sake.
now u really look silly.
liptonesque wrote:
haha, wow. letsrun at its finest.
I figured when i wrote "UTEP has a history..." people would be intelligent enough to figure out that I was talking about this CURRENT UTEP team under their CURRENT coach with many of the same CURRENT runners. Same goes for Iona. And as far as I can tell, Iona's trophy case from the last 5 years is heavier than UTEPs.
Of course I am aware that in the early 80's they won titles decisevly, but that isn't really relevant to this year, now is it?
Maybe the people on here are less intelligent than I thought.
"u must be in grade school."
I just wanted everyone to see that again for irony's sake.
u did make one worthwhile statement..."the people on here are less intelligent than I thought"could you describe yourself any better?
liptonesque wrote:
haha, wow. letsrun at its finest.
I figured when i wrote "UTEP has a history..." people would be intelligent enough to figure out that I was talking about this CURRENT UTEP team under their CURRENT coach with many of the same CURRENT runners. Same goes for Iona. And as far as I can tell, Iona's trophy case from the last 5 years is heavier than UTEPs.
Of course I am aware that in the early 80's they won titles decisevly, but that isn't really relevant to this year, now is it?
Maybe the people on here are less intelligent than I thought.
"u must be in grade school."
I just wanted everyone to see that again for irony's sake.
Seriously? makes many good points in defense of Oregon.
1) Kiptoo was 14th two years ago and he and rupp are looking like a force.
2) Oregon ran very well and spanked wisco at home.
But we'll take some time to refute point #2 a bit.
The problem with the home victory (but what we didn't point out in the article as we were tired of typing) is what's happened since then. At the home meet, Oregon did run well. They put 5 ahead of portland's #3. At regionals, Portland's #3 beat Oregon's #3.
The issue to us is it pepars that oregon's 3-4-5 have regressed since then (or the other teams have improved since then).
Trujillo was running great early in the season.
Trujillo was 9th at the home meet which is quite good. At pac 10s, he was 21st. Not very good. Mercado who was 29th in the team scoring at NCAAs last year, was only 39th at pac 10s and his bro was only 28th.
If Trujillo was running the way he was earlier in the season, we'd say they'd win for sure as it really wouldn't matter where there 4 and 5 were as they could be as much as 40-50 points ahead of Iona after 2 scorers.
3) We're not saying Oregon can't win. We just don't think they should be favored to win it. It's wide, wide open this year as Lananna said himself.
you're absolutely right, i misspelled "decisively"... I think it was a typo.
now that we've gotten that out of the way...
UTEP's CURRENT squad has a history of under-performing at the end of the year. This is the same team under the same coach that was ranked 4th in the country last year and didn't make nationals. That is pretty much the definition of under-performing.
well just shut up!!!!! just admit you made a mistake and get on with it bitch!
liptonesque wrote:
you're absolutely right, i misspelled "decisively"... I think it was a typo.
now that we've gotten that out of the way...
UTEP's CURRENT squad has a history of under-performing at the end of the year. This is the same team under the same coach that was ranked 4th in the country last year and didn't make nationals. That is pretty much the definition of under-performing.
it was more of a case of their coach not going to scoring meets....if he had, they would have been in and probably would have been a top 10 finisher. is liptones a name of a group or what? or is it lipton tea? please explain yourself.
liptonesque wrote:
you're absolutely right, i misspelled "decisively"... I think it was a typo.
now that we've gotten that out of the way...
UTEP's CURRENT squad has a history of under-performing at the end of the year. This is the same team under the same coach that was ranked 4th in the country last year and didn't make nationals. That is pretty much the definition of under-performing.
the only mistake i made was thinking that letsrunners could deal with an implied statement.
oh, and the typo.
Why would I be referring to UTEP's 1980 teams anyways? How is that relevant?
Now that u have the definition of under-performing straight, I'd try to figure out the definition of history next....
liptonesque wrote:
you're absolutely right, i misspelled "decisively"... I think it was a typo.
now that we've gotten that out of the way...
UTEP's CURRENT squad has a history of under-performing at the end of the year. This is the same team under the same coach that was ranked 4th in the country last year and didn't make nationals. That is pretty much the definition of under-performing.
you are the one that said "history" 1980s UTEP is a part of history.
liptonesque wrote:
the only mistake i made was thinking that letsrunners could deal with an implied statement.
oh, and the typo.
Why would I be referring to UTEP's 1980 teams anyways? How is that relevant?
some editors would cringe at the thought of using "current" and "history" in referring to a period of time. Maybe contemporary history would be better usage. Regardless, be more specific and then go eat your shorts!
If someone were to say a statement like "Well, the Democrats are favored going into this election, but they do have a history of screwing themselves over..." then a reasonable person would deduce that they were not referring to the Democrats pre-World War I, but rather democrats in recent history. [arbitrary example, not meant to be political]
This was my logic when I was making that statement. The error in that logic however, is that one is assuming that reasonable people are reading the post. Turns out they weren't.
Anyways, i'm sorry for (in part) unintentionally hijaking this thread.
My point is, I'll don't predict UTEP doing well as well as some predicted at nationals. Not because I dislike them, but because of (recent) past performances.
Also, I thought that the BroJo's look at Oregon was an interesting perspective that has been overlooked due to the hype-machine.
i dunno fellow, but the more you talk, the bigger hole you are digging. go read and contribute to the recent thread that has to do with posting videos of the race. it is a more fun thread and you might get some loving there.
liptonesque wrote:
If someone were to say a statement like "Well, the Democrats are favored going into this election, but they do have a history of screwing themselves over..." then a reasonable person would deduce that they were not referring to the Democrats pre-World War I, but rather democrats in recent history. [arbitrary example, not meant to be political]
This was my logic when I was making that statement. The error in that logic however, is that one is assuming that reasonable people are reading the post. Turns out they weren't.
iona is the fav
wejo wrote:
http://www.letsrun.com/2007/ncaapreview1118.php
So it rained here is the course gonna be messy tommorow?
if it rained in terre haute, that could change things for a few teams. a lot of people seem to think colorado gains an edge when it is muddy, does anyone agree? how much did it rain?
""u must be in grade school."
I just wanted everyone to see that again for irony's sake."
-dangit. u bt me 2 it.
Well, it rained and it didn't. Here is the weather history where it lists any precipitation:
18 20:53 E 7 8.00 Light Rain BKN070 OVC085 42 36 30.22 1023.8
18 19:53 E 10 8.00 Overcast SCT080 OVC100 42 35 30.22 1023.8
18 18:53 E 8 8.00 Light Rain OVC075 42 37 49 42 30.25 1024.6
It is what you do not see on the right that is important right now. On the right they list the rainfall in the last 1, 3, and 6 hours: it is blank so that there was a bit of precipitation but essentially nothing was really hitting the ground. The temp is about 7 degrees above the dew point, so the lower atmosphere was drying out the rain and when it is cool the air holds relatively little moisture (unless warm air is overriding cool air, wherein the temperature is higher above rather than lower (which is the typical case). malmo could probably do this better, but that's what I've got.