when people say there was a bandit in a race, what does that mean? thanks!!!
when people say there was a bandit in a race, what does that mean? thanks!!!
ran without paying the entry fee
also sometimes known as a "turkey"
so do they run the whole thing? do they finish the race?
sometimes they do finish the race. really pisses off the people working the end of a race because it can screw up all the number.
dont do it!
"bandits" are only one of two: assholes or idiots
there is no in-between.
I bandit every race and I have every right to. I pay taxes in the state of Michigan and I have the right to use the roads how I want. I do not cross the finish line and I don't care about the awards or the t-shirt, so who am I hurting. I often have more problems with other runners or spectators than I do with race directors. I can't figure out what I am taking from another runner on the course????
So which is it Don? Asshole or idiot? Both? When a group gets written permission for such an event, the road is no longer public in the complete freedom sense you are referring to. In fact, many times, races purchase parade permits which shows this to be true. Why not go to another public road to run that morning. For the obvious answer, see my first three questions to you. Hey, push back from the computer, get on the net, and cancel just one of your gay pedofile porn sites. Take the extra cash and spring the $12 to support those putting on races and trying to promote the sport.
You are probably one of the stupid ass Hanson members. Why don't you keep your attitudes on your own message board where you can feel free to bash me? Isn't it ironic that the guys that get free entry everywhere are the same guys that are upset when someone else runs without paying. If I don't pay (my choice) and you don't pay (entry waiver), how are we different. Why don't you cough up the same $12 since the sport is so worthy to give back to? Even worse is that you take awards and refreshments afterwards.
That doesn't change the fact that you're using the roads illegally, at least observer isn't breaking the law.
If "Don Malen" is serious and not just someone trolling for attention, I'll reply --
You're stealing servcies such as road closure, course measurement, the presence of competition, perhaps water/other amenities, and even police protection -- all of which are the province of those who paid consideration for these benefits.
FWIW, I have been offered comp entry to a LOT of races and always pay anyway.
Don, I'm not a Hanson's member, although I don't begrudge anyone any ameneties they receive. Things such as comp. entries are offered because the runner has something the race director sees as worthy of helping the race whether it be a fast time, legitamcy, attention, etc. The race director pursues this. They don't pursue what you describe. In fact most despise what you describe as it can screw up results if the bandit goes through the chute which many do. The difference is someone being invited to run versus being encouraged not to run. Is there an underlying grudge against Hanson's you would like to get off your chest? You seem quite angry for what seems to most to be a clear cut non-option, banditing.
Race directors put in a lot of time and hard work organizing races. usually there is a cause that the proceeds go to. So if the race goes to support The American Cancer Society, Heart Association, or even a youth cross country team, you are "stealing" from them.. Very honorable Don!!!
Bandits are thieves. Pure and simple. The race spends time and money to organize an event and bandits steal it. They can try to justify the theft by saying ?I pay taxes and can use my road or others get comps so I?ll just comp myself, or I don?t take a shirt or whatever makes them feel better. It's still wrong.
Poopy?s right. Bandits are assholes or idiots.
In short, a bandit would be a Democrat. Always wanting a handout and for somebody else to do the work for free!
I agree with Patio and the others - this DON MALEN is a complete idiot AND an asshole.
I bet he takes drinks when he bandits, and probably shows up for the "free" food and drink afterwards. If he wants to train, find another road or trail, and stop being a parasite on decent people putting on a race.
Being a bandit is sheer stupidity. You can't just join in the Rose Bowl Parade, so what makes you think you can join a race without following procedures?
How about you actually volunteer at a race to see all of the work involved in staging a race; then you might understand.
Dr Phil is fat
and sexually frustrated because of his small penis (like all republicans). A gun is nothing more than a substitute for people with "penis envy". That's ok NRA wear those bumper stickers proud, we all know what they mean.
...To anyone wanting to see how much of an asshole this Malen guy is, keep in take a look at the hanson's website message board under the "Grosse Pointe Run" thread where it explains how this tough guy spit in the face at someone who asked where his number was. I'd be willing to bet he would not call Kevin, Keith, or anyone of the Hanson guys either stupid, or an ass to thier faces. Since you bring it up, if I were you, which I'm glad I'm not, I would not bring up $12 in entry fees that may be comped by a race director as a favor to two guys who spend according to the Wall Street Journal about $250,000 a year. And since you bring it up, yes, you do pay taxes and can use the streets how you choose. I'm against banditing, and we can agree to disagree on that one. But why the hell would you spit in someone's face for calling you out on it?!?
Don Malen,
Sorry guy, but I've got to agree with the masses here. It is wrong of you to bandit for all the reasons mentioned, but on top of that, it just makes you cheap.
A bandit situation actually cost me a friendship. I was training in the early 90s to run the California International Marathon with a guy whose PR at the time was 3:17. He wanted to get under 3 hours. I actually hadn't broken 3 hours yet either, so we both were shooting to do so. We had agreed to run our own races before hand. Anyway, we got our hotel rooms in Sacramento, and then the next day we got on the bus to the start line, and when it was time to take off the sweats (it was cold that day), I said, "where's your number?" He said, "I didn't officially enter." I lost a ton of respect for him that day, and we were never quite the same afterwards. He rode the bus to the start line, drank the Gatorade, and did everything except cross the finish line. I got there in 2:55. He got there in 2:59. Later he was so happy about breaking 3 hours, and all I could think was "well, you didn't actually cross the line, so it shouldn't count."
It's stealing.