Did guys like Shorter, Rodgers, Salzaar, Beardsly ever blood dope?

Rodgers stated in a 1987 interview in The Runner that he would seriously consider blood doping if he could do it all over again. He didn't seem to think it was wrong. Of course if everyone can do the same thing don't the same people still win?

You hero worshipers are funny.

Beardsley was arrested for forging a prescription for pain killers.

Salazar bragged about his Prozac use.

NEWSFLASH

Pre died because he was drunk off of his ass and got behind the wheel of a car.

I don't know about any of the names you've mentioned, but I do know of a couple stars from that era who did blood dope, and no I won't say who. But you have to remember that blood doping was legal then.

HRE wrote:

I don't know about any of the names you've mentioned, but I do know of a couple stars from that era who did blood dope, and no I won't say who. But you have to remember that blood doping was legal then.

Blood boosting (reinfusing RBCs) went through periods of being banned and not being banned. You would need to look at a specific year to say if it was banned or not. For instance, in 1984 it was not banned. Thus, the US Cycling team was not guilty of a violation of the rules in 1984 Games.

Of Course wrote:

You hero worshipers are funny.

Beardsley was arrested for forging a prescription for pain killers.

Salazar bragged about his Prozac use.

NEWSFLASH

Pre died because he was drunk off of his ass and got behind the wheel of a car.

Beardsley's offenses occurred long after his competitive career were over. He served his sentence.

Not sure bragging is the right word for a person using Prozac. What are the performance enhancing qualities of Prozac (outside of making it possible for some people to lead a normal life)?

Pre was drunk and paid the ultimate price for the error in judgement of drinking and driving.

None of these has to do with performance or performance enhancement.

Actually, Pre wasn't drunk.

Of Course wrote:

You hero worshipers are funny.

Beardsley was arrested for forging a prescription for pain killers.

Salazar bragged about his Prozac use.

NEWSFLASH

Pre died because he was drunk off of his ass and got behind the wheel of a car.

You're right, Pre wasn't drunk. He told me so this morning at the donut shop. James Dean picked us up later in his Porsche, and we all stopped by to visit Marilyn. Man she is still hot.

No, actually, if you ahve ever read anything about it, the coroner admitted to making a mistaking in the BAC test, stating that we will never know for sure. Frank Shorter, who was with Pre and is really the only witness, said he was not intoxicated.

BR wrote:

Rodgers stated in a 1987 interview in The Runner that he would seriously consider blood doping if he could do it all over again. He didn't seem to think it was wrong. Of course if everyone can do the same thing don't the same people still win?

No, in the case of drugs, one individual may respond better to the drug than another. This is dramatic with steroids, where the most naturally talented individual may not respond as well as a guy who's almost as good, and the almost as good guy beats the more talented individual when both are on drugs. This may be true with EPO as well.

I have no idea if Beardsley blood doped; but I have some empirical evidence which indicates he raced himself into an animal marathoner. Which is in stark contrast to today's marathoner who runs one, maybe two marathons, a year. Nobody, I repeat, nobody, in American running today has the balls of Dick Beardsley....

Olympic Trials Summer \'80 2:16:00

Nike OTC Marathon Sept.\'80 2:15:00

New York Marathon Nov. \'80 2:13:00

Houston Marathon Jan. \'81 2:12:48

Beppu Marathon Feb. \'81 2:12:41

London Marathon Apr. \'81 2:11:48

Grandma's Marathon June \'81 2:09:37

Houston Marathon Jan. \'82 2:12:00

Boston Marathon Apr. \'82 2:08:54

Beardsley was indeed a Manimal. I believe he has some kinda of record for the most consecutive prs in the marathon. I think his debut was around 2:47.

there's no doubt that Beardsly was a stud.

Yep I died in that crash.

Dick Beardsley never blood-doped, take it from a guy who knew him before he was the Dick Beardsley. While he was busted for the prescription forgery, Dickie has too much personal integrity to ever use a performance enhancing drug. Also, he made nearly all of his breakthroughs before he had access to the kind of medical support you need to dope.

However, DB may have conducted sort of a "natural" kind of doping thing. He ran through a serious (and well-documented) bout of anemia and I believe adapted himself to perform decently with very low level RBC's. When he was finally diagnosed and his counts were brought into normal range, the dude suddenly became a monster.

Dick Beardsley ought to be the poster boy for every supposed "no-talent" guy out there who has a burning passion to simply be as good as they can be. Knowing where he came from athletically, I am still in total awe of what he accomplished. Frankly, I think Dick surprised even himself.