Being muscular is not the issue. My dad is 6'1 and 185 very well built and he's been playing golf all his life. I on the other hand, have a very even tempo swing and outdrive him by 20yards regularly despite being 6'2 and 143lbs.
Tiger being the size he does not pose any benefit to him on the course. If anything, his chest size interferes with his swing.
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Tiger is juicing for a broader marketing appeal, namely the womens market, make him look like a baseball or football fata$$ to up revenue. Make no mistake, there is a huge appeal to LCD women in meathead sports stars. He's pretty damn vain too so I can't imagine him arguing about it.
What's with the constant scowl? Creepy bastard. -
I wouldn't be surprised if Tiger or any other pro golfer was on the juice. There are always going to be cheats out there, and golf is almost completely unregulated when it comes to PEDs so it would be very easy to get away with.
Tiger would be the greatest golfer in the world with or without, but that's not enough reason to say he wouldn't do it. Barry Bonds was the best player in baseball before he ever started juicing. -
why is everyone saying tiger is huge? seriously... i know runners probably have a warped idea of what is muscular but damn, he's not that big.
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This is probably going to sound dumb but what is "juice"? Is it related to Jack Lelane's product?
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Lou Ferriggoff wrote:
He's sure as hell not as accurate.
Interesting to note, though, that most of the guys, according to the stats, are less accurate now than in '97, to randomly pick a year. For example, the 50th guy in '97 in accuracy was around 72%, but the 50th guy now is around 64% (fairways hit). They aren't all worse golfers, obviously. I think it's because the PGA has tried to Tiger-proof courses ever since Tiger sodomized Augusta for his first green jacket. Narrower fairways, deeper rough. As for length off the tee, with more penal rough and never being all that accurate to begin with, Tiger clearly doesn't hack as wildly at the ball off the tee as he did when he came out. He is much more controlled relative to his younger self. Its not only Tiger, of course, that prompted the PGA to try to toughen up venues. Because there has been no control over ball technology, everyone hits it farther - if they want to - than they did 10 years ago. Not to mention the clubs these days aren't exactly mashie niblets and the like. One might argue that the technological changes have lessened the game. No more need, in most tournaments, to hit a 4 iron into a par 4 and try to hold the greens. Aside from narrowing the fairways and growing jungle rough, we now increasingly see insanely long holes, like the 667 yard par 5 at Oakmont. Some venerable old courses without extra real estate available are becoming unplayable for the purpose of PGA tournaments because they are too short.
As for the idea that Tiger must be juiced because he's bigger than he used to be, that's just stupid. The guy works out. Vanity might well be a part of it. Who knows? But its typical of these boards and humanity in general that some doofus would suggest he must be cheating. I expect that the next winner of the Nobel Peace Prize will be accused of juicing by some troglodyte on this board. -
The Jack Lelane Power Juicer?
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I agree with you Phaedrus. Tiger is not my favorite golfer. I don't think he uses juice. I'll bet lifting is part of his practice. Good golfers don't have to cheat. They have great timing and rhythm. Small boxers know how to load a punch. Decent runners don't lie about their PRs.
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It is astounding that instead of looking at how this guy worked to become the best, you imbeciles ignore the work and try to imply drugs are behind his success. He was one of the best amateur golfers ever, then earned his way onto the PGA tour, reworked his swing 3 times and has done all of it before our eyes yet you still post this crap.
Thanks to all of you, I now have no doubt that letsrun is the gathering place for the most envious, insecure little worms on the Internet. -
go east, go west, CA is best wrote:
i heard that he just had laser eye surgery, but cannot confirm or deny it.
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go east, go west, CA is best wrote:
a growth hormone will enhance visibility...
Damn, I knew HGH was potent, but I never realized that it could alter the local weather. -
When Tiger turned pro he was 6'2" and 155lbs. He's put on about 20 pounds of muscle on as least.
The first poster pointed out the guy who won was smoking and fat. Many golfers are a bit fat and out of shape. Golf is much more about finesse, touch around the greens, hand eye co-ordination; things that are not affected by steriods. TO the extent that steriods have other side effects that are not condusive to good golf it would be stunning if Tiger was juiced.
I predict after winning 20 major wins Tiger retires. At $100 million per year he is already set. I'd like to see snipers shooting the idiots who yell after every shot he makes! -
Nearly all men go through a secondary growth period in their mid-20s where the body will become thicker/more heavily muscled. Training (lifting or hard resistance exercise) will make this growth more pronounced.
During this period of my life (25-28) I put on 10-15lbs of muscle with very limited training. My body fat %age stayed within 1-2% of when I was training heavily in college and post-college.
I wish I could go back to my weight from my early 20s of 160-165lbs. rather than being a robust 190lbs. My frame is too small to be so heavy.
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For those of you who bring up the fact you are puny wimps yet can still drive the ball a long ways. Well take your exact current swing and form, and add 20lbs of muscle and you will hit the ball further.
No doubt the biggest factor in determining how far you hit a golf ball is proper mechanics, but to a certain point. Even the skinniest, weakest adult of average height could drive a golf ball at least 275 with good mechanics. A 5' 125 lb golfer with excellent form will outdrive some 6'6" 300lb behemoth with horrible mechanics. But once you have proper mechanics, strength will add distance. The 5’ golfer above will not hit the ball farther than the 6’6” guy using the exact same form. Once you are using good form, strength will add distance.
And the farther you can hit the ball, the shorter your approach shots will for your next shot. Strength doesn’t help or hurt your short game and putting. That’s just a ton of practice with proper mechanics. So take two golfers with the exact same short game and putting, the same accuracy off the tee, yet one hits it 325 off the tee while the other hits it 280. The 325 guy will win more often. -
I thought he appeared much bigger as well. His arms are really developed. I know he trains hard but he seems to have added a lot of size.
And as far as benefits. Really? Thats like saying how does it help baseball players. Its a matter of levers, power, and control. Not just from his arms but torso/glutes along with lower body to counter balance. Also, let not forget to mention injury prevention.
Also, I was also wonder (of course this is pure speculation) but would those guys be on any sort of psychotropic drugs...to even them out emotionally? That doesn't seem like a big stretch for these guys to get on stuff who have a win at all costs philosophy. In addition, Ive always thought that the more money their is in a sport, the greater the chances for their to be performance enhancing drugs involved. (The love of money is the root of all kinds of evil) -
Tiger looks big because he's squaring off against fatasses, middle aged dudes, and chain smokers.
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sjwiaz wrote:
It is astounding that instead of looking at how this guy worked to become the best, you imbeciles ignore the work and try to imply drugs are behind his success. He was one of the best amateur golfers ever, then earned his way onto the PGA tour, reworked his swing 3 times and has done all of it before our eyes yet you still post this crap.
Thanks to all of you, I now have no doubt that letsrun is the gathering place for the most envious, insecure little worms on the Internet.
Who's the imbecile? No one has implied that Tigers golfing success is a result of drug use. Tiger is a pro golfer you moron, of course he trains constantly. Many great golfers are total fattys, who train constantly. Golfing is not particularly athletic, but it does take alot of work. Tiger just got his ass kicked by a guy who smokes cigs while competing, what an athlete!
Tiger is totally self absorbed, vain, and most likely does it for image.
Thanks to you I have further confirmation that letsrun is a gathering place for lifeless little worms who have nothing better to do than suck up to, and defend celebrity. -
Let's see:
Tiger got his ass kicked? Losing by one stroke and missing a putt to tie on the 18th hole is getting "his ass kicked"? Uh, ok......
"Tiger is totally self absorbed, vain, and most likely does it for image."
How do you know this? Do you know him personally? What criteria did you use to determine this?
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If people can gain 50lbs the wrong way in weeks, then why can't someone lift, eat accordingly and gain 20lbs of muscle in a couple years? Really, I think if we put the same effort in weight lifting versus running, then plenty of bulk muscle would be gained.
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He's not juiced. He just works out. He probably uses the same focus and determination that makes him the best golfer on the planet and applies it to his lifting routine. Combine that with genetics and it's no surprise that he's jacked.
