so where does the credit go? Vin or Alberto? Or is it a joint effort?
so where does the credit go? Vin or Alberto? Or is it a joint effort?
It goes to Rupp.
Also of note in the race:
Bairu goes to #3 AT on the Canadian list(#1 Scheibler 27:36 and #2 P Williams 27:50.19) and Coolsaet goes to #4 or #5 (McCloy is listed at 27:56.9 - hand time??) Huge breakthrough for Coolsaet!!
so what happened to Fam!!!!!!???????
Wasn't there a nice thread a few weeks back after Rupp jogged to a mid 28:00 10k at Stanford, and people were saying Rupp couldn't even go under 28:00 and he was a washup? A lot of people who watched him predicted his next serious one to be under 27:40, and others couldn't even fathom it.
I guess that just goes to show how much blind hatred and jealousy can totally distort reason. This kid has shown he was made of these last two races all along. If you know anything about competitive races you've seen the signs. He has come up to that next plateau from his various national high school records, and is now running national class. Although he damn near made that statement his first NCAA's as a freshman in Sacramento. But how easily people forget.
He will continue to do his unquestioned intense training under the microscope of jealous critics, and he will continue to climb the ladder of performance. Congrats to him for silencing the rediculous critics, at 21 years old.
Thinkaboutthis wrote:
The IAAF story says the opening 5000m was 13:54.5, that puts his closing 5000m at 13:38 or better...wasn't that his 5000m PR just a couple weeks ago?
The 13:54.5 was for the leader at 5000, Rupp was 2 seconds back in close to 13:57, so the finish was 13:36-7.
I still say he'll never win anything important. Oh yeah, and he just shot his wad in April. Very Ritz-like.
"taking seriously"???? wrote:
I still say he'll never win anything important. Oh yeah, and he just shot his wad in April. Very Ritz-like.
Because you can see into the future and tell that he won't improve throughout the rest of the season, right?
Very LetsRun hater-like.
That's a specious argument. What's the best predictor of future events? The past. I've seen it all before enough to know that it's not just possible, it's probable. If you haven't then maybe you should educate yourself in this sport more. I'd say the same for any athlete that I'm a fan of, so it's got nothing to do with any feelings for a particular athlete. Then again, maybe it's YOUR weird feelings about this athlete that make you react this way, that make you believe in fairy tales.
VERY LETSRUN MANCRUSH FANBOY-LIKE.
I predict that only Rupp, out of this group, will EVER run faster:
Galen Rupp Oregon 27:33.48
Ed Moran Nike 27:43.13
James Carney Unattached 27:43.64
Michael Aish Nike 27:46.37
Josh Rohatinsky Unattached 27:55.86
Seth Summerside Unattached 28:02.51
Tim Nelson Wisconsin 28:04.46
You're a retard. By saying "he'll never win anything important", you realize you're wiping all future running events he'll be involved, he will never win anything important? He'll mostly likely place very high at NCAA's(whether he chooses to do the 5k or the 10k), then maybe do a few races during the summer, but reserve enough time to rest and start building up his base for fall xc. Then, barring injury and health issues(which they seemed to have licked now), he'll probably lead the Oregon Ducks to another high placing in xc, in Pac 10's, Regionals, and yes, NCAA's. I wouldn't be surprised if Oregon wins it, and I also wouldn't be surprised if Rupp wins it. Then he'll probably have another successful indoor and outdoor compaign, and then maybe repeat such a year if he decided not to go pro.
Once he's a pro, he'll probably stay in Oregon under the influence of Lananna and Salazar, and go on to do amazing things in running, including running well at world cross and placing high in european 10k's in the summer and world championships. Now, if he decided to move up to the marathon, he'll probably have some great success there as well, maybe win a few big ones- maybe get back to his old stomping grounds in Boston and bring back the Rogers' style of dominance there after years of Kenyan dominance. Galen Rupp is only 20. He has a big future ahead of him, and no matter what you say, you can't stop it. He will win many important races.
"taking seriously"???? wrote:
What's the best predictor of future events? The past.
You're right- the past is a great predictor of the future. And what has Rupp done in the past? Broken records. 13:37, 7:49, 28:15, and now 27:33. And oh yeah, he's only 20.
You're an idiot. I'll admit that it's a conditional statement but based on everything I've seen from him and his environment to this point that's how I honestly feel. What you think will (want to?) happen may come true, I just don't think the chances are that good. I have no interest in stopping it, this is just message board chatter and you're revealing a high school level of naivete with this.
Whoever thinks Josh Rohatinsky will not run faster than 27:55 is an idiot.
Yeah, I do want Rupp to have success.
I don't see how it's idiotic to not think that he won't ever win an important race. Can you explain to me why it would be idiotic to think that? And what am I naive about?
"taking seriously"???? wrote:
...you're revealing a high school level of naivete with this.
This is coming from the same articulate source who gave us the following quote:
"taking seriously"???? wrote:
Then again, maybe it's YOUR weird feelings about this athlete that make you react this way, that make you believe in fairy tales.
VERY LETSRUN MANCRUSH FANBOY-LIKE.
Talk about "high school level." What a hypocrite! You know someone is really shooting blanks in an argument when they resort to thinly veiled references to the opposition's sexual preferences.
Pathetic.
"taking seriously"???? wrote:
You're an idiot. I'll admit that it's a conditional statement but based on everything I've seen from him and his environment to this point that's how I honestly feel. What you think will (want to?) happen may come true, I just don't think the chances are that good. I have no interest in stopping it, this is just message board chatter and you're revealing a high school level of naivete with this.
it's pretty clear that you are the idiot here. the same kind that would have said Hall "blew his load" on his great half, and wouldn't break 2:12 at london. the same kind that says every girl who runs well at high school will grow out of her small frame and suck in college, etc, etc....
there is no way to tell what will happen. Rupp has had good and bad races. now he's moving to a new level, and could very well continue to improve.
To all runners jealous of Galen Rupp,
There is a painful yet simple reason why you criticize Galen Rupp and also why his name is in the news and your name is not: he is faster than you. It is ironic to note that if you were as fast as Galen Rupp you probably would not be wasting your time criticizing other runners because you yourself would understand what is required to become a world-class athlete. You would also feel better about yourselves if you were as fast, although basing your self-worth strictly off of running performances would be a self-destructive and superficial way to live your life. Be that as it may, all you runners - and I will give you the benefit of the doubt that you actually are runners - must not forget that Galen has the two crucial factors necessary for success: talent and discipline. It takes talent to run 100-plus miles a week (i.e. your body physically being able to withstand the taxing training) and to run your last lap of a 10000 meters in 60 seconds; it takes discipline to train day in and day out, through injuries/sickness, and make sacrifices like not going out on the weekends and binge drinking. Keep in mind these factors are required regardless of any alleged drug/steroid uses which by the way have yet to be proven. Instead of wasting your time online criticizing Galen Rupp I suggest you get outside because your time would be better spent running. If you want to stay inside and play the intellectual game then I suggest you read the genealogy of Morals by Nietzsche and learn about how people with less power develop a sense of ressentiment (no I didn't spell it wrong) towards people in power, forming attitudes of blind jealousy and mindless hatred. So on that lovely note, I defy you: go on, keep criticizing Rupp, in the end you will only be getting what you want, not what you need.
Beat a lot of Africans. White mans game like BBall and Rap.
It's not about Rupp running fast and beating top names. That is awesome in itself. He deserves credit for his awesome talent, hard work, dedication and sacrifice. What most people DO NOT like about Rupp is the way he and Salazar have gone about his college running career. From the time he graduated from high school up to the present time they do things that no other coach and college athlete have been allowed to do. There methods are questionable and suspect at best. They put themselves in a position to be criticized and not supported or cheered for by the running community as a whole. If he was doing what he has done while training under the same conditions and terms that all of the other college athletes were training under nobody but a jealous moron would find fault in his success. But that is not the case. I know Rupp supporters will scream unfair and untrue, but when there is smoke there is usually fire. And all your arguments and ranting in support of Rupp will not and have not changed the negative feeling many people have about Rupp and Salazar. It is a fact of life and that fact has put them in the negative spotlight for many years and probably many more years to come. Unfortunately for those who think Rupp walks on water and should be allowed to be above the rules of everyone else will have to continue to live with the negative feelings of many in the running world. Nobody denies he is talented and hard working and that Salazar is a heck of a coach, but many don't like how they play. Live with it and be happy for your definition of success, as others are not, therefore negativity will follow Rupp and Salazar probably for some time.
RIP: D3 All-American Frank Csorba - who ran 13:56 in March - dead
RENATO can you talk about the preparation of Emile Cairess 2:06
Running for Bowerman Track Club used to be cool now its embarrassing
Great interview with Steve Cram - says Jakob has no chance of WRs this year
Hats off to my dad. He just ran a 1:42 Half Marathon and turns 75 in 2 months!