I have this problem only in so called tempo runs after 15 minuets of fast constant pace only when run on a track or a treadmill. Other workouts on track or treadmill, this doesn’t happen. This also doesn’t happen on the road or on a dirt road no matter how long I run or what workout I do or what incline.
Final update on my runners’ dystonia. Neurologist had me try three pharmaceuticals that have been reported to treat this disorder. Sinemet (L-dopa & carbidopa) had no effect on my running but did give me vivid, color dreams. Carbamazepine (Tegretol) actually made things worse. Finally, I tried Trihexyphenidyl (Artane), an anti-Parkinson’s drug. (I don’t have Parkinson’s). Started with 1 mg/day, and immediately found that I wasn’t dragging the left foot/leg as much. Slowly upped to current dosage of 2 mg, 3 X daily. I have had significant improvement and actually am starting to feel like a runner again from time to time. Each time the neurologist upped the dosage by 1 mg/day, I got a bump in decreasing my time to cover the same daily route. At its worst, I was running ~11-minute miles. As I’m getting fitter again, I’ve decreased that to 8+-minute miles. Will see how this goes as my fitness level improves. May need to increase dosage. Only side effect for me is dry mouth. Just glad to finally be getting better.
I posted several times on this thread around a year ago and thought I should give a final write-up of what’s been going on. Since I last posted, my coordination issues have greatly subsided; still present, but FAR more manageable. It’s tough to say why exactly either. I slowly began running more and more and over the successive months the issues popped up less and less. I can’t tell you the last time I’ve had to drop a run because of it, and over the last few months I’ve been in better shape than I ever was before these problems.
I think having Graston work done on my hamstring helped, as well as basic strengthening and easy runs that didn’t aggravate the issue, and I believe sprinting helped as well. My theory as to why the problem initially occurred involves several factors. First, pulling my hamstring and not taking adequate time off. This lead to the scar tissue. Second, was running in large, clunky, maximalist Hokas. I believe this lead to my hamstring being “phased out” as it was not getting activated adequately on runs. Third was not preforming proper strength/rehabilitation exercises that further deactivated the hamstring, and made the rest of my muscles in my legs compensate the work that was being done by the hamstring. Take all of that with a grain of salt, because it is just my unlicensed hypothesis. But once I switched to minimalist shoes, began doing more strengthening work after having my scar tissue broken up, my condition only improved.
I hope this can help someone, and I am unbelievably grateful to be running well again.
I have had all of these symptoms that you guys are describing. Dead leg sensation, weakness, loss of control/coordination in my leg that honestly renders running pretty damn scary. For me, it feels like I lose control of the leg below the knee. I experienced occasional tingling and difficulty lifting my foot off the ground after walking or running for a while.For a long time I thought this was all due to ankle instability (as my issues began following an ankle sprain 3 - yes 3 - years ago). I have done so much PT for my ankle but honestly even though it is currently pretty strong, that has not helped with the 'lack of control' feeling in my leg. Hence, I began to consider other potential causes of my issues and saw a really great sports med doctor who ordered a nerve conduction study, not expecting to find anything significant but telling me there was a slight chance that we would. The result? Peroneal mononeuropathy at the fibular head. There was a 10 m/s conduction drop posterior to my knee in the peroneal motor nerve. Luckily recruitment patterns of muscles in my leg all turned up normal. So, while I am not saying that this is what everyone on this forum has, I am saying that nerve issues are worth looking into.
Anyone afflicted with this ailment,do yourself a favor and give it up. This is truly a lost cause.Save yourself the time, energy and heartache of looking for answers. There are none. It's just a slow, steady demise.
Here's an article on the problem from the January 2018 issue of Runner's World. They even mention this thread in the article:
I remember reading this thread way back when it was started, because I had the same symptoms -- for years it felt like my left leg was going to give out, and like I couldn't control it. Sometimes it would just stop responding, like there was no power when I tried to run.
In 2012 I wound up being MIS-diagnosed with Multiple Sclerosis. I had a lot of neurological symptoms, tingling, numbness, nerve pain, would slur my words in the heat, and had the "MS hug" pain. I had repeat brain MRIs and have lesions all over my brain. Despite all this I ran multiple marathons and was in phenomenal shape.
This year I was CORRECTLY diagnosed with Lyme disease, Babesia, and Bartonella (Lyme co-infections). I do not have MS. I never saw a tick bite, never got a bullseye rash, and never had joint pain (Lyme does not always cause joint pain, I didn't know that).
Less than 50% of people who are bitten by ticks get a bullseye rash. Nymph ticks are the size of poppy seeds so good luck finding one if it's in your hair. You can also get Lyme and Bartonella from spider bites. Bartonella is called "cat scratch disease" because you can get it from a cat too. There are 29 different strands of Bartonella, and new Borrelia bacteria (Lyme) are being discovered every year. Testing is incredibly unreliable and false negatives are VERY COMMON. Your dr. may tell you your Lyme test was "negative," but in reality they don't know how to read the test results. You should have Igenex testing done and see a LLMD.
Lyme is more common than breast cancer, there are over 300,000 cases each year and that is just the people who are properly diagnosed (misdiagnosis is very, very common).
I have had tons of tick exposure over the years, so I don't know when I was infected -- Lyme can go dormant for years, and will re-emerge after the flu, surgery, trauma like a car accident, or stress.
I don't know what the hell "runner's dystonia" is, but it sounds like a bullshit made up disease. If you have any strange symptoms over a long period of time that come and go and move around your body, if you ever had a "summer flu," if you have been to different doctors and can't get a proper diagnosis or are told it's an autoimmune disease, MS, Lupus, ALS, mono, CFS or fibromyalgia -- GET TESTED FOR LYME. I have read so many stories about people being misdiagnosed with ALS and it turned out to be Lyme, it's terrifying.
I hope this post helps someone.
Look up Runner's Dystonia as previously mentioned, this seems to be the issue. Unfortunately it is quite new and there is no cure. The meand of suppressing the effects seem kind of expensive and to be honest, I have seen no real success stories yet.
Curious if treatment for Lymes has helped your symptoms?
I think I may be dealing with this issue. What's weird about it is that I have yet to experience symptoms when racing the 5k. 10k it has happened twice and also during a half although I somehow was able to stave it off and finish decently. I've been considering just running many miles and doing only hill repeats and strides otherwise and just sticking to 4 mile and under. Basically I've been told my hip on the left isn't pulling it's weight and my foot is trying and failing to compensate.
I'm curious if after all this time if anyone has had any success? After going through the entire thread, there doesn't seem to be much of a consensus on anything. It seems to me (as I believe that I have experienced this a number of times) that this seems to be neuromuscular issue. Glute weakness seems to be a major culprit, however, strong glutes would be rather inconsequential if hips are out of alignment, particularly the sacrum being out of place.
Does anyone experience these symptoms at the very end of a race (i.e. kicking) with the sensation being that of extreme lock up?
Has anyone experienced these issues while doing continous fast runs on a steady incline? (treadmill tempo)
Could adductor strength (or lack thereof) be a primary reason why this occurs?
This has happened to me during treadmill tempos, a steady uphill tempo run, and continous struggles at the end of races (inability to kick without extreme lock up). Happens sporadically but is easily the most frustrating injury(if thats what you want to call this) I have ever experienced.