I never said she lacked guts, so STFU you moron.
I never said she lacked guts, so STFU you moron.
ellie may wrote:
How come Deena gets a pacer last year and Dita gets to run by herself this year? Too much controversy last year?
btw, calling Dita's effort "moronic" only proves how little you know about marathoning. She's got more guts in her pinky finger than you have in your whole body.
There is a fine line between guts and stupid racing. she went out in a pace that was way over her head. that is moronic. shut the f*** up.
ellie may wrote:btw, calling Dita's effort "moronic" only proves how little you know about marathoning. She's got more guts in her pinky finger than you have in your whole body.Really? I would say that going out damn near your 10k time probably shows you know very little about marathoning. It's possible to know very little about marathoning and have a lot of guts; Dita's 1:17 second half showed it today. She lost six minutes on the leaders in the last eight miles.
ACTUALLY....my guess is her coach, and her agent would agree that a 1:08 split was NOT smart and did cost her the win. This is not a 20K/Half...smart pacing early means a strong finish. 1:09highs, 1:10s may have been a much smarter way to run sub 220 (See Kastor at London for some perfect pacing advice)
so this coach thinks "yep, dumb move Dita!" and yes, I know plenty about the marathon
where is everyone watching this video of Cheruiyot falling?
manhattan runner in 2:20.something
Is there a way to just get Top Americans?
Results off a training program don't figure into the how successful the training is?? You guys smoking pot??
ex-Spartan Jamie Krzyminski at 2:43:34 for her marathon debut. Rock.
If i'm on a cross country team, and I can run 25 flat for 8k, but I see one of my teammates, who can run 28 flat for 8k, runs like shit. I'm not going to start questioning whether the training is right or wrong, and yes, that's about how far apart torres and ritz are.
Spectated wrote:
manhattan runner in 2:20.something
Hopefully that's Charles "Karl" Dusen of MTC?
ttc wrote:
Results off a training program don't figure into the how successful the training is?? You guys smoking pot??
Ed Torres and Jason Hartmann are going to be answers to trivia questions before you know it, if they're not already. Ritzenhein is smart enough to realize nothing can be predicated from a couple of C list guys. You need to smarten up too, ttc. It's a dumb premise you're throwing out there.
The race video was broadcast streaming online. They showed a couple replays. He didn't trip, as the kimbia person asserts, he slipped on some slick wet posters that were stuck to the road in front of the finish line. He was braking slightly as he got to the line and when the rubber on his shoes met the wet poster stock his feet went out from under him and he hit the back of his head on the road. His momentum took his legs across the finish before anyone else.
How do you know that the issue lies completely in the training? That same training took him comfortably through a hot time in Philly
Here's some video clips for those that are just tuning in
Anyone know a good personal injury lawyer?
And what makes it infinitely dumber, is that TTC is not even applying "that" premise--if members of a training group do poorly that might cause another member of the group who has not yet competed to have some doubts--to his own case, because this case does not involve a training "group"--it involves one guy, Torres. So his argument really is, "If one member of a training group does not do well, then another member of the group should doubt his own chances."
gorney wrote:
ttc wrote:Results off a training program don't figure into the how successful the training is?? You guys smoking pot??
Ed Torres and Jason Hartmann are going to be answers to trivia questions before you know it, if they're not already. Ritzenhein is smart enough to realize nothing can be predicated from a couple of C list guys. You need to smarten up too, ttc. It's a dumb premise you're throwing out there.
Anyone know a good personal injury lawyer?
Yea, you guys are right. An athlete's results are irrelevant to the training program.
So THAT's why Hartmann's pace fell WAY off when he caught up to Ed. :-p
Think before writing wrote:
And what makes it infinitely dumber, is that TTC is not even applying "that" premise--if members of a training group do poorly that might cause another member of the group who has not yet competed to have some doubts--to his own case, because this case does not involve a training "group"--it involves one guy, Torres. So his argument really is, "If one member of a training group does not do well, then another member of the group should doubt his own chances."