........PSAC.......

They party this year ... but when the team from 2-3 years ago they didnt. Because they were serious.

Been dere dun dat...

advice:

Don't make training goals, make racing goals; plan your training to support your racing, that's it.

Don't worry about pace of your entire run, just start moderated and finish strong on days you feel strong, and on days you don't feel it, just finish the run.

Run in morning as much as you can, just do it!

If 7 year old gymnasts can get up at 4:00 am then so can we.

You don't need a team to be the best athlete you can be.

Hell, I used to train with my competition, quite a bit. I could be running a workout with a guy on tuesday and racing him as hard as I could on Sunday. I know there are runners in Cleveland.

That whole team thing is a nice romantic idea, but all said and done; Racing is inidividuals competing with individuals.

Work didn't bother me, I could work 50-60 hour weeks and put in 120 miles. But, I have not been to a happy hour or out drinking after work in 20 years.

Don't listen to naysayers or pessimists; negative people suck, and they seem to be everywhere.

I always found time.

I have never been too sore to train, and I am not any more sore than I was in college. I have had that post-workout feeling every day since I was six years old and started doing pushups for baseball. The day it's gone is the day you are dead.

You don't need an indoor track or even an outdoor track.

You don't lose any speed in your twenties. I could still run sub 12 100 meters at 30 years old.

And don't use the word pain. Running doesn't hurt, racing doesn't hurt, it just requires concentration.

Just don't buy negative bullshit and don't convince yourself anything other that it can be done.

If you love to race, DO IT, and do it now. Time disappears in an instant, almost beyond belief.

And the final advice:

And there is nothing you can do now that you can't do at 40 years old, EXCEPT be a young athlete in his prime.

If I weren't at work right now, I would go for a run. That was a great post.

on a side note, we need to plan an alumni party, or at least hang out at the local brew pub (forget the name) for nationals... I was thinkin disco ball in the castle maybe???

word

in the same boat as bobcat i believe, with teaching and coaching, but platt's post just gave me a nice kick in the rear.

big bear, you gonna be at iup's homecoming this weekend?

Whoa, whoa, whoa! What on earth is an intelligent and inspiring piece of literature doing on this thread? There's no room for that kind of thoughtful and thorough reasoning around here.

Please return to comments about tight pants and the extremely exuberant homosexual tendencies that once existed. I miss the comments about asses and stankness.

Yours truly,

PSAC

Shelly will be top 10 in the conference.... don't forget, he posted up a 31:5x 10k last year at that very same course and walked away all region.

As for pre-nats, it should be crazy. Most of the PSAC along with some top national talent. Look for some fast times coming from Cooper's Lake this weekend!

PSAC Attack wrote:

Shelly will be top 10 in the conference.... don't forget, he posted up a 31:5x 10k last year at that very same course and walked away all region.

As for pre-nats, it should be crazy. Most of the PSAC along with some top national talent. Look for some fast times coming from Cooper's Lake this weekend!

Fast times arent ran at Coopers Lake

especially in this weather. anyone going to have results for paul short?

You know I'll be there... sitting around during my planning period waiting for my ride to get done teaching her last class so we can head on up... hopefully see ya there!

I know comparing different races is not accurate, but in this case it is accurate as it can possibly get. I am only posting this as a pre-conference indicator of what the womens race will look like between these 3 teams that races at Paul Short today.

SHIP

1, 2, 5, 7, 10, 11, 18 TOTAL:25

BORO

4, 6, 8, 13, 15, 19, 21 TOTAL:46

KUTZ

3, 9, 12, 14, 16, 17, 20 TOTAL:54

1 1624 2 Neely Spence, Fr* 19:57 5:21 SHIP

2 1608 51 Mary Dell, So* 21:35 5:47 SHIP

3 1385 74 Joanna Horstmann, Sr* 21:53 5:52 KUTZ

4 1897 3 Tina Yi, So* 21:56 7:05 BORO

5 1614 103 Abby Huber, So* 22:15 5:58 SHIP

6 1896 19 Hillary Weismiller, Fr* 22:36 7:17 BORO

7 1610 140 Katie Frey, Fr* 22:40 6:04 SHIP

8 1895 24 Amber Sanders, So* 22:43 7:19 BORO

9 1391 142 Cristina Reimer, So* 22:44 6:06 KUTZ

10 1625 148 Sarah Strayer, Fr* 22:48 6:07 SHIP

11 1613 157 Lindsey Hollenshead, So* 22:50 6:07 SHIP

12 1381 161 Hailey Dell, Sr* 22:53 6:08 KUTZ

13 1891 28 Kristine Beringer, Jr* 22:57 7:24 BORO

14 1380 181 Kristin Cupido, So* 23:06 6:11 KUTZ

15 1892 39 Anya Bogdanets, Jr* 23:07 7:27 BORO

16 1392 188 Kristy Ulrich, Fr* 23:12 6:13 KUTZ

17 1393 197 Maureen Watson, Jr* 23:16 6:14 KUTZ

18 1615 200 Samantha Jones, Sr* 23:18 6:15 SHIP

19 1893 100 Danielle Cerroni, Fr* 24:20 7:51 BORO

20 1377 269 Keri Brown, So* 24:33 6:35 KUTZ

21 1894 126 Jordan Gibbons, Fr* 24:48 8:00 BORO

National Rankings going into this meet

12 Ship

18 Bloom

19 Kutztown

25 SRU

also some good results from the guys side too. mclaughlyn and hahn(24:23, 24:27) looked strong. boro averaged 25:21 and ship averaged 25:50, but ship had 5 guys in before boros 4th. maybe they were missing people but there was a big gap, not sure what happened to their depth. beegle ran great for ship, (24:57) and they had a threesome of sophs in the high 25s, and neyhart closely behind who must still be getting his legs under him. one thing this race does tell us though is that mclaughlyn and hahn, possibly beegle with some improvements, are all national caliber. we will have to wait untill the hills of rock to find out who the real men are.

where are results from sru? anyone know...

you see IUP's new uniforms? sick.

1. Uc San Diego

637 4 Jake Levieux 25:24 5:07

636 5 Jesse Morvill 25:31 5:09

638 8 Gabe Lamothe 26:00 5:14

639 15 Greg Goldmine 26:15 5:17

643 20 Kevin Klein 26:26 5:20

641 22 Jermey Riley 26:27 5:20

645 37 Max Mullender 26:55 5:26

Total Time = 129:33 Total Places = 52

2. Lock Haven

445 2 Nick Hilton 25:22 5:07

444 6 Tim Gatz 25:44 5:11

448 12 Mitch Miller 26:09 5:16

454 18 Jed Yeatts 26:23 5:19

455 31 Nathan Zondlo 26:45 5:23

441 52 Sean Craig 27:25 5:32

443 65 Justin Amy 27:39 5:34

Total Time = 130:21 Total Places = 69

3. Wayne State

623 3 Abdntlah Sallah 25:23 5:07

624 9 Dan Kupudia 26:02 5:15

626 21 Chris Tassen 26:27 5:20

618 25 Sam Breem 26:30 5:21

621 33 Kevin Debear 26:46 5:24

628 42 Vince Bechard 27:08 5:28

625 44 Nick Kroll 27:12 5:29

Total Time = 131:07 Total Places = 91

4. Slippery Rock

539 1 Pat Reagan 24:51 5:00

542 7 Jeff Weiss 25:55 5:13

536 24 Jason Leonard 26:30 5:20

541 26 George Walton 26:33 5:21

534 40 Kevin Dustin 27:07 5:28

538 50 Matt Mumford 27:23 5:31

537 66 Evan Matthews 27:42 5:35

Total Time = 130:53 Total Places = 98

5. Bloomsburg University

352 16 Mike Dalton 26:21 5:19

360 17 Jim Stockley 26:22 5:19

353 23 Bob Furman 26:28 5:20

356 43 Auston Martzall 27:10 5:29

351 53 Jared Arnold 27:27 5:32

357 56 Dave Moyer 27:28 5:32

354 68 Cory Hardy 27:52 5:37

Total Time = 133:47 Total Places = 152

6. Millersville

466 19 Jim Bover 26:25 5:19

471 28 Adam Malloy 26:40 5:23

472 29 James McBride 26:42 5:23

467 39 Ben Brewer 26:59 5:26

468 45 Joshua Foulds 27:13 5:29

469 55 Zach Kelchner 27:28 5:32

474 70 Mike Parker 27:55 5:38

Total Time = 133:58 Total Places = 160

7. Indiana Univer. Of Pa

91 10 Matt Gaudet 26:05 5:15

97 14 Shelly Nate 26:12 5:17

98 35 Sean Strauman 26:52 5:25

93 54 Ben Havko 27:28 5:32

95 63 Josh Joson 27:38 5:34

90 77 Matt Browe 28:11 5:41

99 109 Steve Todaro 29:40 5:59

Total Time = 134:13 Total Places = 176

8. E S U

386 27 Doug Jankowski 26:40 5:23

390 34 Grag Laraia 26:46 5:24

384 38 Ryan Doyle 26:56 5:26

393 41 Kyle Weir 27:08 5:28

394 48 Chris Zadroge 27:21 5:31

382 51 Pat Carr 27:24 5:31

387 59 Sam Janssen 27:32 5:33

Total Time = 134:50 Total Places = 188

~Regan is a beast, I heard he was just cruisin in the race...also Hilton and the haven boys came up big, i wonder if they had pomerantz running if they could have won the meet??? Yeh I don't understand IUPs new uniforms they look they more like sprinter tops then distance uniforms...great showing by the psac schools today!!!

No Sammy Chelanga is a beast. (23:05)

What Reagan did was run an average college runners race.

I give him props for winning the meet, but honestly, this guy is a good runner, not a great one.

How is that course compared to some others?

yeah according to ralph white the kenyans wear those type of tops in the marathons all the time.

The times looked fast today on this course....We spent 3 days rolling it so it was firm...We will do the same for regionals and nationals....Weiss ran in Asics 2130's and this was Kevin Dustins first solid week comming off an injury. When he is ready to roll he should run about 26 low on or faster at conference