How many women are on this board?

My guess is one in four or maybe one in three on a good day. Sometimes it gets a little rocky here. I'm a former Cal Golden Bear myself from the mid-80s. Feel free to zing me an e-mail sometime.

I think there are a lot less women who obsess about running or any activity that would interest them in frequenting this place. Actually there are probably many who regularly check this site and never post a message. If they do, it is probably a direct question in search for some actual useful knowledge, and not a bunch of egocentic passive-aggressive types looking for an argument and an outlet for displaying their own delusional superiority.

Actually men and women have many differences despite what many here say(and are afraid to admit)

For instance, I never could to relate to my own mother and sisters' shared affinity for the celebrity award type shows (Emmy's, Grammy's, Oscar's, etc.) Especially when they could only admit that the only reason they watched them was to see "what everyone was wearing."

Although I can't put a finger on it, I suppose there is some gender influenced reason that these internet sites tend to be mainly dominated by males. Probably that what is discussed on here doesn't interest your general female running population.

There is a pretty good female-oriented site -www.fastwomen.com.

Remember the Golden Bear Motto...."Cal, where men are men and women are too"

How many women are on this board? 5

Im a girl

I'm going to estimate maybe 1 post in 6 or 8 from a woman. I'd also guess fraction of woman lurking not posting is higher.

Internet usage is pretty balanced among the sexes in US. An ugly minority of users of this board make it somewhat unfriendly for women due to immature postings. In fact, they make it unpleasant for everyone but particularly for women, e.g. Janice or 'big tittes'. But that's the deal on the internet, just ignore what isn't worth reading. It's just unfortunate that a subset of boys feed each other's posts (this site is not unique in that respect, of course).

The flip of that of course if that the 14 year old boys hate this post for being all high and mighty. Again, the internet, they can ignore me.

I appreciate input from women on all topics, often the perspective and certainly tone is different. I hope many stick around despite the bull and also participate and post. Enjoy your anonymity, give as good as you get, and don't take stupid posts personally.

Thanks to calbear in particular for piping up lately.

I thought females were better spellers than males. Or is that math?

Women are generally better at math.

Fredo,

You said this referring to some men who post here - "bunch of egocentic passive-aggressive types looking for an argument and an outlet for displaying their own delusional superiority."

Who on Earth would do that? :)

Knower wrote:

Women are generally better at math.

Knower nothing - young girls are better at math than young boys. When boys hit puberty the extra shot of testosterone helps the spacial abilities and improves math skills to the point where in general men are better at math than women.

Watchdog wrote:

Knower wrote:

Women are generally better at math.

Knower nothing - young girls are better at math than young boys. When boys hit puberty the extra shot of testosterone helps the spacial abilities and improves math skills to the point where in general men are better at math than women.

Actually, I have never seen a single thing that says this has anything to do with testosterone. It has more to do with gender equity in the classroom and the self esteem of girls when they hit puberty. They realize that they won't be "liked" by the boys if they're the class "know-it-all".

There are some pretty smart people that have been studying this for quite a while (I think at Harvard) and the American Association of University Women are pretty big on this issue.

Since you go to school on 'The Farm' -- a campus whose female population does nothing to detract from this reference -- maybe we're talking some Pot meet Kettle here.

Not Really wrote:

?Actually, I have never seen a single thing that says this has anything to do with testosterone. It has more to do with gender equity in the classroom and the self esteem of girls when they hit puberty. They realize that they won't be "liked" by the boys if they're the class "know-it-all".

I can not say either way on the testosterone theory, but the ?gender equity in the classroom? theory offered by Not Really is BULL-SHIT. There are many myths in the world, and that is one of the biggest. Maybe this was true at one time (50 years ago?), but NOT now. Have you EVER gone to school?? Have you ever looked around? HELLO? Girls are some of the most aggressive, brown-nosing, kiss-ass, hard-working, obsessed-with-grades students you will ever find. At least the equal to boys, if not the more aggressive students. Not Really said: ?They realize that they won't be "liked" by the boys if they're the class "know-it-all". ? Huh? It?s the BOYS who are even more ostracized for being nerds/brainiacs and who will not be popular with their classmates if they are ?smart!? The boys have many other avenues for attention other than doing well in school: sports, being party-animals, getting in trouble/fights, and conquering the girls! Socially, they are less encouraged than the girls to be good students in high school. Now girls recently have gained attention in some of those same traditionally-boy ?venues?(sports, being ?bad,? etc) and maybe they are emulating the boys in some ways(and THAT might curb their desire for good grades), but to say there is an unfair ?gender equity? issue in the classroom makes me sick. Girls are NOT afraid to raise their hands in class?.girls are NOT afraid to offer their opinions, girls are NOT afraid to push when they need to. Have you ever worked in an office?? Maybe is it is unfair to call the ?pushy? girl a bitch, and accept that ?pushiness? more in males, but it does not stop the females from being aggressive learners/students/workers from my perspective. If anything it drives them more. And here?s a news-flash to all those female?s out there: the reason the pushy male is not called a ?bitch? is because that particular slight is used for GIRLS! The pushy guys are called ?jerks,? ?bastards,? and ?A-holes? etc. So DON?T give me that line that guys never get called on being over-aggressive?they do?they just get called something other than ?bitch.?

So if males are better at math, it has NOTHING to do with gender-equity in the classroom. It could have something to do with females PREFERRING other subjects, or being pushed towards majoring in other subjects, but is not because they are not given a chance to shine/are repressed in the classroom. PUH-leeeaaaze!

>So if males are better at math, it has NOTHING to do with gender-

>equity in the classroom. It could have something to do with females

>PREFERRING other subjects, or being pushed towards majoring in

>other subjects, but is not because they are not given a chance to shine/

>are repressed in the classroom. PUH-leeeaaaze!

Actually, that's what the findings I've read said. Historically, girls were discouraged from pursuing math or hard sciences. It's less true now, but still exists. In that sense, they ARE being repressed culturally, but not officially.

And by the way, the actual, scientific findings did not feel the need to insult either sex, like your scientists apparently did.

Watchdog,

Again, I'm not "Knower" for nothing. Here is just one of many such reports I found with a quick search (The below quote came from a study involving high school students and is listed on this site -

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2001/05/0523_GeoBeeGirls.html

):

"According to a national testing service, girls score higher than boys in reading, writing, civics, and math. Boys score slightly higher in the subject of science."

Good try though.

As usual, a real question becomes a discussion of something not at all on the topic.

I am a female. But, I do not post very often.

This post is also off topic, since I'm not a woman. While a request for the women on the board (if any) is kind of interesting, how fascinating is a roll call in the big picture?

I sometimes get nostalgic for the days of TNFmedia, when there was at least one woman, her handle escapes me, but she doesn't post much if at all for professional reasons, who posted funny, insightful comments and didn't take macho garbage from anyone. For whatever reason, she was willing to put up with it.

My recommendation (not that I'm an authority, just my two cents) is if women want move involvement on the board, just post what you're interested in discussing. Sure, you'll have to wade through some sexist drivel but maybe in the long run you'll get a good discussion going. I'll be the first to admit I'm not as up on the forecast for women's NCAAS as I'd like, but I'd sure read interesting posts on them (for example).

Rastrepus wrote:

As usual, a real question becomes a discussion of something not at all on the topic.

as fredo so astutely noted, "a bunch of egocentric passive-aggressive types looking for an argument and an outlet for displaying their own delusional superiority."

magpie wrote:

Rastrepus wrote:

As usual, a real question becomes a discussion of something not at all on the topic.

as fredo so astutely noted, "a bunch of egocentric passive-aggressive types looking for an argument and an outlet for displaying their own delusional superiority."

Magpie- you misquoted Fredo, who made an excellent point.

He wrote "NOT a bunch..."

"Actually there are probably many (women)who regularly check this site and never post a message. If they do, it is probably a direct question in search for some actual useful knowledge, and not a bunch of egocentic passive-aggressive types looking for an argument and an outlet for displaying their own delusional superiority."