length of periodization cycle?

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21 years ago 09/08/2002 3:53am EDT

i've been having trouble lately understanding why runners/athletes are using a periodization type of training with approximately 12 to 26 week cycles. you see people writing on the boards that they put a nice solid 8 - 16 week base in, or often less, before starting any speed training. These are people who are from 1,000 to upwards of 4,000 weeks old. How much of an impact can be made by putting a base in that is less than 1% of your overall life. isn't the other 99% your true base?

it's understandable that you have to do whatever works for you, and i'd be interested to read officially how long peoples cycles are here that are working for them, but some coach somewhere must be training on something more to the tune of a 7 - 10 year or 350 - 500+ week cycle right? if somebody could drop a name or two of who they know doing this it would be appreciated, i'd like to read about them.

21 years ago 09/08/2002 7:45pm EDT

re: Legalizit

Your point smacks of perspective but positing everything against life's length produces what? How about the fact that we sleep 1/3 of our lives? Obviously effects are gained from 12 week bases, and more effects are gained from doing the aerobic and anaerobic over years instead of months, but effects are effects. "That guy just asked for a tip, but I told him, 'Why should I give you the benefit of a lifetime of learning?'"

21 years ago 09/09/2002 2:57am EDT

re: konro

konro wrote:
Your point smacks of perspective but positioning everything against life's length produces what? How about the fact that we sleep 1/3 of our lives?

I'm not completely sure what would be produced by putting into place training cycles that are in perspective/ratio to your overall life cycles. The fact that we sleep anywhere from 1/5 to 2/5 of our life only leads me to further believe that doing things on a grand scale would be more effective. For instance, if you slept, as planned, for 8 hours every night from 10 until 6 for your 26 week cycle that would be a monstrous achievement in my book. The question of whether or not that erases the previous thousand or so weeks of intermittent sleep must still be raised. The main point of this thread was to find someone to read about who has done this to see how it worked for them, but that doesn't appear to be working out so well.

If asked, you give somebody a tip from your lifetime of learning, often in the form of a book, because you are compassionate and want man's progression to be quick and efficient so that suffering will be kept to a minimum.

21 years ago 09/09/2002 3:03am EDT

re: Legalizit

Bob Kennedy training is a good example of how well periodiaztion works (there are plenty of books with his block structure in them)

21 years ago 09/10/2002 9:25pm EDT

re: JC

I wasn't really trying to be rude legalizit, of course the longer one puts in the time the more lengthy the benefit. We all like the quick fix sometimes, but we know the long run works best. I guess I was responding more to the perceived pessimism in that one can say, "Man, my base was only 16 weeks, it should be more like 100." I'm just not big on regret. Evaluation and change, but not regret. And the last line of my post was a movie-line quote meant to be quixotic, not condescending.

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