wow....that's a shocker....time has indeed marched on! Merle at Leisure World? that does NOT compute!...Joe is only training a few guys? Are they hand picked national-world class guys? What about all the 'community runners', the Drs, lawyers, etc and the 'regional level class runners', like the Bob Macias-types...the solid, 30 minute 10k guys that made up the bulk of his distance guys in the late 70s, early 80's? All gone? I think you mentioned Pat Cady was coaching at SM High? That's another shocker. I remmember him as a jogger on the team, in the mid-late 70's, who eventually got his own group of joggers and the young kids, on the SMTC to train; with Joe's approval. I guess he has learned and moved up! Last time I saw him, 10 years ago, maybe, he had blown up like the Michelon Man. I barely reconized him. So, the SMTC barely exists as an everyday, working, workout club anymore? Just Joe taking a handfull of AllStars to Europe every summer, as he started doing in the late 70's, and really big in the 80's? Wow....I'm stunned.....But if Greifinger is still running around town in his SMTC T shirt and acting as the SMTC lawyer, and doing it for a living, who and where is the club existing? Is Johnny Gray an up and coming coach now, taking Merle and Joe's place with his own group? What about Slotkin?...lol...