Atantic Region XC - D3

ok last chance predictions folks...

Men

1. Cortland

2. NYU

3. Geneseo

4. TCNJ

5. RIT

6. U o'R

7. Plattsburgh (dont act suprised they do it every year)

8. Brockport

9. SLU

10. Ithaca

Women

1. Geneseo

2. TCNJ

3. Ithaca

4. Plattsburgh

5. SLU

6. Fredonia

7. RIT

8. Brockport

9. Cortland

10. RPI

anybody else care to throw their hat into the ring?

Men's prediction

1. NYU

2. Cortland

3. Geneseo

4. RIT

5. TCNJ

6. Rochester

7. SLU

8. Ithaca

9. Brockport

10. RPI

It should be real close all around the top 10. I gotta put NYU and Cortland slightly ahead of Geneseo and RIT. I could see Ithaca or TCNJ could pull an upset and finish up a few spots. Plattsburgh might give 10th a run just because of DeShane but lack depth 3-5th. A little rain in the forecast for this week and warm temps so the ground should not be frozen.

Western NY guys (Mr. Lowe perhaps): keep us posted on how the weather is looking out there and if anyone takes a visit over to the course this week.

Calls for some rain tuesday, maybe into wednesday, than dry with sun, so the course should be dried out by saturday. It should be pretty cold at night to make the ground pretty firm, but not frozen like a rock. I heard last time it was at Lechworth it was a mudbath, should be much better conditions for a fair race.

Heard Nally wants a piece of deshane after the beating he got at SUNYAC's

My best effort:

Teams (in order) * = Nationals

1)NYU* [UW invite]

2)Cortland* [Paul Short, SUNYACS]

3)Geneseo* [what a pack]

4)TCNJ* [always strong at the end, lost some people]

5)RIT [hasn't been on at the Reg in recent years]

Coming On:

(8)The Platt [race day peakers], (6)UofR [don't forget last year]

Fading:

(7)SLU [they will improve next year], (11)RPI

Toss Ups:

(9)Ithaca, (10)Brockport

Individuals (no specific order after #1)

1)DeShane

2)Stevens

3)Shamus

4)Cloke

5)Abdallah

Depending on the teams we send, individuals who have a realy good chance:

Beringer, Asher, Gaudette, Donohoe, Williamson, Lowe

Women's: no shocker here

All I know- Toni (Ind.), SUNY G (Team)

Men

1. Cortland

2. Geneseo

3. NYU

4. RIT

5. TCNJ

6. Brockport

7. UR

8. Ithica (gorges...but peaked a week too early)

9. RPI

10. SLU

Also, I'll do my best to keep everyone updated on the weather in the greater rochester area

thanks, Fake Lowe

Don't you mean Fake Slowe?

Depends on the major and what you're going for, honestly. There are certain departments at Geneseo known for deflating grades (scienes, history, english, poli sci, communication), and others known for inflating them (education, business, music & art). And take a look at the course websites any syllabi at Genny vs. some other SUNYs to get a feel for this. How do I know? I work in graduate admissions somewhere prominent in Western NY. You can guess where. Its really not important. And to be honest, I do not neccesarily know if the competitiveness at Geneseo is known downstate. I can just say for a FACT that here, a Geneseo grad with a 3.3 in bio is a more appealing candidate than one with a 3.8 at Cortland in the same subject. Either way, these sort of regional biases exsist everywhere with various state schools.

Know a little, but not a lot wrote:

Does a 3.5 from Genseeo really look much better than a 3.5 from Plattsburgh or Cortland?

I think you are kidding yourselves if you think it makes a difference.

that's because the only thing Cortland is good for is producing gym teachers

trust me...i got an A in whistle blowing 401 and an A- in sweatpant fashion

I hope he wants a piece of his ass, because I'm afraid it'll be the only thing he sees saturday.

scrun wrote:

Heard Nally wants a piece of deshane after the beating he got at SUNYAC's

Deshane is a stud... Nally could probably take him in another year or two, but I don't know about this year. I hope the course stays nice for Saturday- would hate to see a real race compromised by conditions.

Here are my predictions for Regionals, in this order:

1. Deshane (Plattsburg)

2. Williamson (RIT)

3. Williams (NYU)

4. Stevens (Rochester)

5. Lockett (Geneseo)

6. Nally (Cortland)

7. Cloke (Cortland)

8. Abdallah (NYU)

9. Low (RIT)

10. TCNJ #1 man (Sorry, I dont really follow them)

11. McGrath (Geneseo)

12. Mualcahy (Geneseo)

13. Greenlaw (Cortland)

14. Donahoe (SLU)

15. NYU # 3

16. NYU #4

17. Gauthier (Geneseo)

18. TCNJ #2

19. Gaudette (SLU)

20. Burdick (RIT)

21. NYU #5

22. Henry (Cortland)

23. TCNJ #3

24. Little (Cortland)

25. Tillapaugh (Geneseo)

26. Beringer (Brockport)

27. Kolb (Brockport)

28. RIT #4

29. Asher (Plattsburg)

30. TCNJ #4

31. RIT #5

32. TCNJ #5

Team Results

1. NYU: 3,8,15,16,21, (63)

2. Geneseo: 5,11,12,17,25 (70)

3. Cortland: 6,7,13,22,24 (72)

4. RIT: 2,9,20,28,31 (90)

5. TCNJ: 10,18,23,30,32 (113)

Obviously there is no way that this will be the order come Regional day, but this is who I think will beat who, I did not bother to throw in other team's runners not in the top 5, (NYU, Geneseo, Cortaland all could have their 6 and 7 men in before other teams fifth). Interpret as you want, I think NYU will win the race. I do not think SUNYACS was an accurate description of the matchup between Geneseo and Cortland so I think Geneseo will come out on top over Cortland, and RIT has been beating TCNJ all year, they will do it again.

Props to you for making firm predictions, albeit anonymously. I bet you'll be mostly right--except I would put TCNJ closer to RIT (if not in front). NYU could run a great race and finish third again (not that I think they will)--fortunately, this year they should move on anyway.

I just think it'll be a fun meet to watch. NYU, Cortland, and Gen may be looking ahead just a bit, because if they don't blow their Saturday races completely, they'll still be pretty much assured of a trip to The Dance because of their previous "big" performances. Meanwhile, the teams that are fighting over fourth and fifth (and more than two teams will be) will be completely peaked and rested--no reason to hold anything back.

It's funny: some years this Regional meet has been much more competitive and intense on the women's side than on the men's. This year, the women's race almost feels like an afterthought (and I was a women's coach!)...the men's is going to be a classic, I think. Thank god it's the earlier of the two.

You mean like the last time Geneseo hosted and the whole course was a mud pit?

The course wasn't bad earlier this year, just a couple of soggy spots. I just hope it stays nice.

Who cares what the course is like, this is cross country not track. That is what makes XC so great, you need to be prepared for any type of conditions every weekend.

The regional meet in 2003 at SUNY-G was great! Huge icy mud puddles and a 7700 meter course. My last "mile" that day was a 4:20...Turner must've dipped under 4:10 with how he was moving up front.

Good luck to everyone this weekend!