Cragg's 12:57 legit?

cant answer your question, but that name is a flash from the past for me. His brothers used to run at the school down the road from us in Johannesburg,South Africa.

Memories

It's on the IAAF results from paris - I've never known them post GL results and then say ' oh we got the wrong athlete there'

I'm sorry to say that it is unfortunately wrong. It's Boniface Kiprop's time. He did not DNF as listed in the IAAF results.

....except of course that the other thread now tells me that this time they did mess up. I'm off to bury my head underground for a few decades

5000m:

1 Kenenisa Bekele (Eth) 12mins 51.32secs

2 Edwin Cheruiyot Soi (Ken) 12:52.40

3 Moses Mosop (Ken) 12:54.46

4 Tariku Bekele (Eth) 12:55.69

5 Alistair Ian Cragg (Irl) 12:57.60

6 Joseph Ebuya (Ken) 12:58.03

7 Abderrahim Goumri (Mor) 12:58.76

8 Mike Kipruto Kigen (Ken) 13:02.26

9 Benjamin Limo (Ken) 13:04.82

Alan Webb (USA) DNF

Boniface Kiprop (Uga) DNF

Charles Kiplangat Bett (Ken) DNF

the above results according to BBC, the following according to Sportinglife.com, of course, if they got their info from Paris then who knows,

5000m:~ 1 Kenenisa Bekele (Eth) 12mins 51.32secs~ 2 Edwin Cheruiyot Soi (Ken) 12:~52.40~ 3 Moses Mosop (Ken) 12:~54.46~ 4 Tariku Bekele (Eth) 12:~55.69~ 5 Alistair Ian Cragg (Irl) 12:~57.60~ 6 Joseph Ebuya (Ken) 12:~58.03~ 7 Abderrahim Goumri (Mor) 12:~58.76~ 8 Mike Kipruto Kigen (Ken) 13:~02.26~ 9 Benjamin Limo (Ken) 13:~04.82~ Alan Webb (USA) DNF~ Boniface Kiprop (Uga) DNF~ Charles Kiplangat Bett (Ken) DNF~ Moses Kipsiro (Uga) DNF~ Craig Mottram (Aus) DNS~ Khalid Zoubaa (Fra) DNS~ Morkos Geneti (Eth) DNS

mir,

The point some people are making is that those results are not correct. I'll be curious to see the final outcome of all this, I was actually there, but don't remember any white guys near the front. They weren't good about getting results up at all for any of the track races (at least they had little electronic boards up for the field events), so I'll be interested to see how this turns up.

By the way, since it's the hot topic: Webb was at 10:31 with three to go, and I saw him stepping off the track around 300m later with about slightly under a minute going by. He was slipping toward 14 minutes.

apologies then,

guess even the Beeb get it wrong.

How do you know this?

Well if theyve c*cked it up, theyve done a good job, even writing the following wrap up:

Bekele takes initiative with 500m to go

The men’s 5000m might not have provoked the same adjective but nonetheless Kenenisa Bekele’s 12:51.32 win was a world season lead, the Ethiopian World record holder taking to the front with 500m to go. There were PBs for the next three athletes who followed the 24-year-old World Athlete of the Year across the line, while in fifth Alistair Cragg of Ireland set a national record of 12:57.60, Europe’s fastest of 2006.

mikeinbostoninparis wrote:

The point some people are making is that those results are not correct. I'll be curious to see the final outcome of all this, I was actually there, but don't remember any white guys near the front. .

Huh?? Didn't you just answer your (and others) own question?? You said: "I was actually there, but don't remember any white guys near the front." You made the effort to go the meet, you are track fan who posts on LetsRun, and "don't remember" if Cragg was near the lead group at the finish?? C'mon man!! If a 6'2" skinny white guy is running 12:57 and he is not Mottram, I'd think you'd notice him.

Sounds like he didn't run 12:57. I was frankly shocked to see it at first. But now reality(he didn't do it) is making more sense to me.

Can't believe they'd post that if it wasn't correct, but in the photo, there isn't a white guy anywhere near the front. Unless Alistair's been to the tanning bed.

They probably did mess up but six seconds back from the lead doesn't put him up front at the finish.

You morons Cragg was no where near under 13. You people must really have shit for brains.

the asshole wrote:

You morons Cragg was no where near under 13. You people must really have shit for brains.

These are the OFFICIaL RESULTS

rank athlete Nat results

1 BEKELE, Kenenisa ETH WL 12:51.32

2 SOI, Edwin KEN PB 12:52.40

3 MOSOP, Moses KEN PB 12:54.46

4 BEKELE, Tariku ETH PB 12:55.69

5 CRAGG, Alistair IRL NR,EL 12:57.60

6 EBUYA, Joseph KEN PB 12:58.03

7 GOUMRI, Abderrahim MAR 12:58.76

8 KIGEN, Mike KEN 13:02.26

9 LIMO, Benjamin KEN SB 13:04.82

10 SAÏDI-SIEF, Ali ALG 13:29.68

11 ABDOSH, Ali ETH 13:32.15

12 DINKESA, Abebe ETH 13:33.28

abd BETT, Charles KEN abd.

abd KIPROP, Boniface UGA abd.

abd KIPSIRO, Moses UGA abd.

abd WEBB, Alan USA abd.

np GENETI, Markos ETH n.p.

np MOTTRAM, Craig AUS n.p.

np ZOUBAA, Khalid FRA n.p.

someone said during the race that there was gap between the africans and Cragg, and that picture may have been taken whil Cragg was still back and then Alistar could have possilby launched a huge kick and just been closing like mad at the end. i really don't think the IAAF would make a mistake like this!

My other post was deleted from the site. You heard it here first....Cragg was a DNF at 4k. This is straight from the horses mouth.

shasta wrote:

someone said during the race that there was gap between the africans and Cragg, and that picture may have been taken whil Cragg was still back and then Alistar could have possilby launched a huge kick and just been closing like mad at the end. i really don't think the IAAF would make a mistake like this!

Notice the IAAF resultshttp://www.meetinggazdefrance.com/?lang=en&p=meeting2006&f=resultats/index&discipline=datas/re0170040You may say they have the results mixed up but check out this tidbit from the meet recap

Bekele takes initiative with 500m to go

The men’s 5000m might not have provoked the same adjective but nonetheless Kenenisa Bekele’s 12:51.32 win was a world season lead, the Ethiopian World record holder taking to the front with 500m to go. There were PBs for the next three athletes who followed the 24-year-old World Athlete of the Year across the line, while in fifth Alistair Cragg of Ireland set a national record of 12:57.60, Europe’s fastest of 2006.

If this is not enough evidence, if you look closely at this picture you can see at the hip of the guy in the yellow singlet right next to bekele, what might be cragg's arm, and if you look by his legs you can see shoes but this person's whole body is covered up by the dude next to bekele

Take it for what its worth, but I personally think the people who keep saying he DNFed are trolls.