Kibiwott Kandie - 57:32, former half WR holder - BANNED for evading tests

Not quite. It wasn't Kenya. They again had the AIU come to the rescue, and ban Kandie.

But yeah... USADA also couldn't catch Houlihan or Coleman, so we had to have the AIU come over here for the rescue too. I am still hoping all these 200 pages full of drug-cheat-supporters and AIU-bashers are either Houlihans or Rekbots.

Point in case: so far no one has bashed the AIU or their experts in any of letsrun's 4 - 5 Kandie threads.

Why was my post removed for saying Motel 6?

By this logic, pretty much and global championship is all dopers. And it might be right.

Otherwise how does a “clean” Ethiopia get good results while a dirty Kenya doesn’t? But it is also a bit crazy to think europe, Uk, the USA and Australia all decided to start heavily doping a couple years back after 3 decades of sucking.

Nothing against Fisher, but Kiplimo's recent WR is in another stratosphere timewise compared to anything Fisher has done.

Kenya shut down their testing in July 2024 due to funding being pulled from the Kenyan government. Conveniently before the Paris Olympics. Perhaps it is up and running again? I don’t know.

AIU has nothing to do with Kenya.
in summary from AIU’s website: AIU… Athletes Integrity Unit is an independent body separate from World Athletics. The AIU is doing the work that many countries governing bodies and anti doping units are unwilling to do. The AIU has been delegated full authority to oversee the sport of Athletics doping issues. The AIU supports Testing, Compliance, Investigations, Intelligence, Case Management, Communications and Education.

The AIU is doing a tremendous job internationally but has limited resources. If Kenya were to be banned (I believe that to be the only way to put a stop to the deception and send a message to others), that would free up AIU resources to bring integrity back to our sport.

I don’t think Sebastian Coe would be praising it if it were shut down:

dawn.com

Coe happy with Kenya’s progress against doping

https://www.dawn.com/authors/119/afp

NAIROBI: World Athletics chief Sebastian Coe said on Wednesday he was satisfied with the progress made by Kenya in...

Link:www.dawn.com/news/1896329

Still for top athletes, the AIU will do more unannouncedout of competition testing of them so it stands to reason they will get more busts. ADAK also does a poor job of revealing their banned athletes, which is on them.

Without a doubt, suspicions aren't black and white, but banning should be. Banning by suspicion and guilt by association would make things worse for everyone.

I don't believe banning all Kenyan athletes is the solution. What would be their path back from the ban? Why wouldn't they be allowed to just run under the AIN, like Russian athletes?

I am happy that runners are being caught--especially the big names. I'm not sure what is the best deterrence. Possibly, harsher financial penalties?

Not so long ago, October 2024, ADAK was warned by WADA that they would be non compliant in WADA’s view due to Kenyan governments 90 percent drop in funding. For Mr. Coe to say he is satisfied with ADAK in March of 2025 would mean ADAK was able to get funding somehow and is operating in compliance (I assume) which is a good thing. Still, it is the AIU that has been mostly responsible for catching the crooks.

They're all on stuff. It's matter of bad luck some of them get caught because they were not doing it carefully enough or just stupid. Keep lying to ourselves that there are clean Kenyans beating doing Kenyans.

"doping Kenyans" I meant

Unless it was a political statement from Mr. Coe, so he can become IOC President with the help of African votes.

NOooo not my man Kandie !?

But he didn't test positive. Someone with more information ?

I don't care a thing about some silly comparison with one of your Americans (has your athlete even run a half marathon?). What I do care is that he has run 1 minute faster over a half marathon than a hyper elite that has just been sanctioned. Note that Kiplimo also seems to disappear at odd times during the middle of a season, such as after his extremely fast 5000m against Kejelcha. He's also a Rosa sponsored athlete that seems to spend a fair amount of time in Italy training alone, which in and of itself should set off alarm bells for anyone.

Looks like Kandie was chowing down on something besides candy.

Guy’s right. Kiplimo is the most obvious drug cheat ever. He’s so clearly tainted he makes Ruth C, Floyd Landis, Shelby, and even Lance Armstrong look clean. Only a naive fool could possibly believe Kiplimo is clean. There’s so much to add to what this dude just posted that it’s not even funny. People are going to feel like they just watched the rabbit fall through the top of the magician’s hat once Kiplimo inevitably gets pinched. He’s further proof that running fans are mostly idiots who believe anything they’re told at face value.

Maybe the AIU should do all the testing. After some internal reforms with more accountability and transparency within.

Here is the deal. Even when clean the Kandie man is faster at the half marathon than any American has ever run. So calm down there little one.

Agree, though as has been debated on here, it is less clear whether the funding and operation of anti-doping in Athletics was ever affected. There is a separate fund that is diverted for the sport.

How do we know what Kandie can run clean if he’s been dirty this whole time? Could you explain?