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Official 2025 Tokyo Marathon Live Discussion Thread
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Our analysis of Tokyo is now up on the HP:
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Boltsi wrote:
I hope you understand that doping would be an absolutely disgraceful act in Japanese culture, leading to lifelong shame for the athlete and their family. An honor suicide would be likely. In Africa, the attitude toward doping is completely different.
Japanese businesses scandals are common recently. So what makes you think Japanese doping would be "disgraceful"
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not goood wrote:
whynotginger wrote:
still a 3 minute PB though.
Jake ran a full marathon in training recently in 2:16.
That a easy training run for a 2:03 guy. Its 13 minutes slower. ~ 30sec/mile !
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NERunner03533 wrote:
Running UberNerd wrote:
I know this was stuck into the recap article as fact but, without context, it kind of falls flat to me. US runners have done well at the Olympics, US majors, and races in the heat. If they ran two fast/flat Japanese marathons every year, I'm sure this stat wouldn't exist. Feels lazy to just throw it in the article.
Meb 4th 2012 Olympics (top Japanese runner 6th), Rupp bronze 2016 Olympics/Ward 6th (top Japanese runner 16th), Rupp 8th in 2020 (Osako got him in 6th, the other 2 US runners finishes better than the other 2 Japanese runners), Mantz/Young 8-9 in 2024, with 1 Japanese runner 6th & another 13th.
So which is it? Is Japan so far ahead of the US in marathoning because of time alone or do US runners have relatively softer PBs & can actually compete with these guys at the Olympics? It's an interesting fact but context matters. You would think Japan would be the country with more Olympic success if you're just repeating that stat as fact.
Par for the course with this ragtag crew.
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Just watched full race, good race.
Have to feel for Legese, seems to have been around ages, alwaysa gets involved but never seems to podium.
Bad run for luel Gebresellaise, 23rd and 2:09
Tokyo obviously has a massive marathon following but my, the crowds are quiet.
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Epi400 wrote:
Ah, this is a shame. Hopefully he won't beat himself up too much about it. He should take it easy for a month, hit a couple of fast tempos (NOT a training marathon!!) and have another go in a few months. He'll probably get a great time.
He was on for 2:12 at 35k, he can obviously do that in a full marathon if he just goes a bit easier in the very last part of the build-up.
Looks like he ended up in the medical tent. Hopefully, the next attempt goes better.
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Subfour359! wrote:
Boltsi wrote:
I hope you understand that doping would be an absolutely disgraceful act in Japanese culture, leading to lifelong shame for the athlete and their family. An honor suicide would be likely. In Africa, the attitude toward doping is completely different.
Japanese businesses scandals are common recently. So what makes you think Japanese doping would be "disgraceful"
+1
They just banned Koki Ikeda a few weeks ago for four years. "An honor suicide would be likely." Nope.
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