"Nothing can be inferred from a WADA ban", when they indicate the reasons drugs are banned and when their express purpose is to fight doping in sports? Add to that, none of the studies you rely on involved the participation of elite athletes who were doping. There has been no study of that kind. You really are the most stupid **** ever on these boards.
It's funny to watch you get so upset because of your general failure to comprehend plain English.
But on the contrary, when WADA adds drugs to the list, they do not give us any indication which criteria were met, and how that was determined.
They have said there are three criteria they consider: potential performance benefit, potential harm to health, and spirit of sport. So for every drug added to the list, there are several questions: Which two criteria were satisfied? How did they determine that the criteria were met? Was it "potential" or was it "real"?
Because of all these unknowns, there is really nothing that can be inferred from a drug being banned by WADA, except that a secret committee recommended to ban it for reasons they do not provide, on a basis they do not provide.
It's all so arbitrary and whimsical.
If it is also "arbitrary and whimsical" why are athletes using these drugs? Just to be "arbitrary and whimsical"? To harm their health? To go against the spirit of sportsmanship? I wonder if they have another reason? You obviously don't.
What a stupidity: "how Coe would fare today". What's the meaning of this at all?
From all of Coe's performances in 1981, we KNOW that he has had a level of fitness in this year which easily makes him comparable with this level to the best of today. Without any doubt in the 800m. But also in the 1500m - maybe not in a extremely fast race, but that's for speculation.
In an actual race? I think you got this really well: we will not see such a race. Maybe he would fall at the start and wouldn't finish. Maybe he would use his unique finishing speed in a 1:47 race for an easy win. Maybe he would struggle to hold on Wanyonyi/Arop in a low 1:41 race and finish third. Or maybe maybe maybe...
But one thing is for certain: with the level which he has shown in various instances in 1981 he would be one of the top candidates for the win in the 800m (more speculative is the situation in the 1500m, but I strongly believe he would be in the mix there too). 3:31.95 is not representative for his level of fitness in 1981.
Do you think shoes, tracks and so on have improved in close to half a century? Do you think they were actually better in 1981 than they are now?
I see from your posts here that you don't even know Coe's PBs, so it's easy to state you don't know anything about his wins in slow races in 1981. Try to educate yourself.
Now try to check what Arop achieved in a serious WR attempt in the 1000m last year. Then try to find what Coe has done 43 years earlier. Could you find the marks? Not easy for you, I know. Try again.
But if he were in the present he would have to dope, like the best do today.
If it is also "arbitrary and whimsical" why are athletes using these drugs? Just to be "arbitrary and whimsical"? To harm their health? To go against the spirit of sportsmanship? I wonder if they have another reason? You obviously don't.
Faith. Belief. Rumors. Panic. Desperation. Frustration. Bad advice. Exploitation. Coercion. Routine Medical treatment.
If it is also "arbitrary and whimsical" why are athletes using these drugs? Just to be "arbitrary and whimsical"? To harm their health? To go against the spirit of sportsmanship? I wonder if they have another reason? You obviously don't.
Faith. Belief. Rumors. Panic. Desperation. Frustration. Bad advice. Exploitation. Coercion. Routine Medical treatment.
Yes, that is most of your posts. But what is "arbitrary and whimsical" about drug use?
What a stupidity: "how Coe would fare today". What's the meaning of this at all?
From all of Coe's performances in 1981, we KNOW that he has had a level of fitness in this year which easily makes him comparable with this level to the best of today. Without any doubt in the 800m. But also in the 1500m - maybe not in a extremely fast race, but that's for speculation.
In an actual race? I think you got this really well: we will not see such a race. Maybe he would fall at the start and wouldn't finish. Maybe he would use his unique finishing speed in a 1:47 race for an easy win. Maybe he would struggle to hold on Wanyonyi/Arop in a low 1:41 race and finish third. Or maybe maybe maybe...
But one thing is for certain: with the level which he has shown in various instances in 1981 he would be one of the top candidates for the win in the 800m (more speculative is the situation in the 1500m, but I strongly believe he would be in the mix there too). 3:31.95 is not representative for his level of fitness in 1981.
Do you think shoes, tracks and so on have improved in close to half a century? Do you think they were actually better in 1981 than they are now?
I see from your posts here that you don't even know Coe's PBs, so it's easy to state you don't know anything about his wins in slow races in 1981. Try to educate yourself.
Now try to check what Arop achieved in a serious WR attempt in the 1000m last year. Then try to find what Coe has done 43 years earlier. Could you find the marks? Not easy for you, I know. Try again.
As I said - it is only your opinion. You can't transport Coe from 1981 to the present. But if he were in the present he would have to dope, like the best do today.
It's not an opinion.
Before you admit to it (you know it is true) you lie about what you have said (you did so several times just in this thread) and now you come with the most stupid "argument": Coe will not run against the best of today in his 1981 form. Laughable.
You know the concept of a stopwatch? Probably knew for you, but they took the times in races already in 1981.
So we know that Coe has had a level in this year which easily makes him comparable with the best of today in the 800m (and I'm pretty sure also in the 1500m, maybe not in a super fast race). But for the 800m, there is no question mark.
Who would win? You are absolutely right: we will never know.
But when you are not certain if Coe was doped in 1981, than you agree that you doesn't necessarily have to dope to reach the top level of today (for sure all the best of today still could be doping, we don't know this).