"Kind of hurt my feelings"- Ritz questions Hoare's desire to compete and race.

he also sh*t on the new Nike Swoosh Group and particularly Jerry. so he burned that bridge.

Ollie should stop focusing on dying his hair blue, getting his 4th ear ring, nose ring (or whatever) and podcasts that get 10k views.

Focus on running. You are 28 and in the the golden age of the 1500m.

time to move on to the tri, guy

Forget about beating the other guys listed , is he ever beating Cam Myers again at anything?

But it isn't his fault. Injuries can do that look at what happened since brazier who was clearly #1 in the world.

Elaborate further how a piercing affects your running results?

I think Olli Hoare is really in a difficult place, and I totally get it.

It seemed like only yesterday he was on the cusp of being in the spots that guys like Kerr, Nuguse, Hocker are in now - part of this "elite of the elite" of mens MD running alongside Jakob and now sadly for a number of reasons he has become an afterthought that in trying to drag himself back into relevancy, is just sinking further in the quicksand.

On a national level he has now been firmly superseded by Myers. He was kind of "the" guy in the OAC but that has clearly been overtaken by Nuguse and even the "mercurialness" of Beamish who has a world title to his name over 1500m. He had the one amazing moment at the Commonwealth Games in 2022 where he beat Wightman and atoned for a terrible showing at the WC's, but the CWG just don't hold the same prestige anymore and his showings in Budapest and Paris were, despite being injury compromised, still average.

He took to social media to talk about how he was a victim of social media - never that smart, and whether or not this is fair, when you have a podcast/youtube channel called the Coffee Club where you sit around drinking coffee and talking about your "job" as a runner, the reality is you don't exactly set yourself up for much sympathy when things go south. I know that sounds irrational and unfair and it is - but it's the optic and tonality of the situation whether he wants to believe it or not. The latest comments about the training etc are also a bit strange and seem like weird sympathy vote casting - especially because after you run a PR (like he did). Calling your own training "laughable" - even though on surface seeming self-deprecating, does have a spin-off on Ritz as his coach.

I think Olli just needs to cut out the white noise, get back to what made him happy as a runner because he doesn't seem happy now at all. Maybe take a break from the coffee conversation and the social media.

He is an extremely talented athlete and I believe he's also a genuinely nice guy. This sport is BRUTAL - physically but more so mentally. I hope he gets back to happiness and running well again but I do think some things need to change in order for that to happen.

Interesting. Just a few days ago, Olli posted this self-criticism on Instagram:

"There's a difference between being cautious in training and just being a coward.

My training for this race has been laughable and I'm embarrassed in my result at the millrose games 3000m."

If Olli himself says he's been a coward and describes his training as laughable, then it seems that Ritz was right to question his hunger.

Spot on. Which came first.

Ritz or Insta cry wank

I like Ollie and hope he gets back but he was a mile out of line on the pod particularly on the back of this post and his one after the Olympics.

Less than 40 minutes into that podcast, and I’m thinking, “u gotta be kidding me”🙄.

The mile world record holder is sitting in the chair, he briefly says why he doesn’t like the idea of double-threshold, and the others are insisting he needs to do it for his fitness. 😂

What a stupidly idiotic post. Ritz is not having some ‘existential crisis’, fanboi.🙄

My first -- and current -- impression exactly.

There's a difference between being transparent and being a gufus with no social filter.

If Ritz is furious, he have every right to be.

What Ollie said about their private conversations should have remained in the locker room.

This situation can be easily patched up -- if both parties can forgive and forget.

It does leave one wondering if this is the beginning of the end for Hoare @ OAC/Boulder.

If they are having a conversation on how to become a world class runner, I think that it is fair for a coach to say. Because based on his recent racing, I would question his desire to compete also. Is he an excellent runner, without a doubt! However, he really needs to find another gear to be other than just another runner that unrealized potential. He has to want to go to the next level. Ritz can’t make do it. I will always be a fan of Olli’s, let’s go!

That might be the problem he’s more pure 1500 runner The generic strength based 300-500 stuff Ritz likes to give because it benefits most who find him well, it’s is just coaching Hoare straight him into a corner. Being frustrated is a good sign there’s still some fight in him, no lack of effort at all. The tip off will be in the logbook also, stronger workouts in racing flats than spikes at 7:30-7:35 pace.

epicly bad post

my lords and ladies

Loyal2theSoil

I think this is all correct . While we as fans appreciate transparency, there’s also a right and wrong way of doing things. It seems like he’s burying Ritz for the crime of training him with the milers and shielding him from a Millrose mile that might’ve been a demoralizing experience. It’s been one of those after another since Paris. This is sort of the perils of group training at some level though. Hoare might benefit from training with the Robinson/Jacobs duo, but if he thinks so like he seems to it’s on him to proactively address it.

Doesn’t surprise me. The scoop is that all is not lovey-dovey at OAC. Lots of friction, jealousy, and trust issues among the runners themselves and with Ritz.