...just thinking, MAYBE the first women's 4 minute mile will take place: between the Shelby Houlihan Memorial Burrito-Van and the Beaverton Public Toilets. ...Shelbs, move out of Beaverton. I wanted to spend my teens in Beaverton...but it's not all it's cracked up to be really.
This is ridiculous. My initial post said that your post highlights well how a conspiracy theory works to suck you in, but it works by highlighting small errors and avoiding the big picture. You're taking this very personally and not owning your own theory, which clearly suggests the time was 0.4-0.7s out. That's directly from your post. I post the video saying forget the details, it's clearly around 3:26 flat. It was a good conspiracy theory, but the video disproves it overall easily.
"I honestly don't know what exactly I believe here (did he run 3.26.00 or was it more like 3.26.4/5) but it's something I have heard about over the years and seen for myself with the footage etc"
I don't have anything to own. Not sure how clear I could be that I don't necessarily believe one way or the other. But you believe and tell yourself what you need to - you are out here making what you believe are salient points but really you've given no actual counter evidence other than "time the video it's clearly 3.26 flat" which as anyone who understands the sport knows, would not be in line with what an actual FAT time would be. And btw, the majority who read your sh-t here don't agree with you - so that sucks for you bud. But you have a good day brother, take care of yourself.
So Addy outta nowhere sets HS records. So she could have gone to NC State, Boulder, NM, maybe Stanford? And she choses to go to some sketchy weird tiny college known for doping coaches, and sexual harassment, after committing to Boulder. I'm not buying it at all. It would be like Katelyn Tuohy committing to NC State, then not going and going to some crap JC in West Virginia.
No. It's not like that at all. Wiley went to a school where her coach (and super close family friend) was the coach. That school also happens to be in her hometown, which she likes. In most ways, Huntington was actually the obvious choice.
I thought the MAIN, biggest secret...although not a wild theory...was that women at least, pre-1989, held an artificial-bladder of drug-free urine in their vaginas, AS they competed - then used it for their post-event urine sample, meaning a clean urine test. ...and THAT is why things changed and performance levels for women reduced so dramatically, when regular blood-tests arrived in 1989. ...blood-tests being almost impossible to easily fake, unlike urine tests. ...and lest we forget Mr. Róbert Fazekas fumbling the same sort of tech on the male side - please discus...
...you know women don't pee from their vagina right?
I thought the MAIN, biggest secret...although not a wild theory...was that women at least, pre-1989, held an artificial-bladder of drug-free urine in their vaginas, AS they competed - then used it for their post-event urine sample, meaning a clean urine test. ...and THAT is why things changed and performance levels for women reduced so dramatically, when regular blood-tests arrived in 1989. ...blood-tests being almost impossible to easily fake, unlike urine tests. ...and lest we forget Mr. Róbert Fazekas fumbling the same sort of tech on the male side - please discus...
...you know women don't pee from their vagina right?
...you know women and men READ with their eyes and brain right ? "artificial-bladder" - dope !!
I'm bumping this thread because I didn't see this when it was being regularly posted in. I'm glad someone reposted my info about all the weird stuff around the Brooks Beasts over the years from the Houser thread but I've got another that is a bit more conspiracy-y than others.
It's about Nick Symmonds from 2015. Anyone who was following the sport knows Nick was coming back from injury in 2014, he was 31 years old, and had joined the Brooks Beast after his 2013 silver medal at worlds. Nick had been the man in the US 800 for the better part of a decade at this point and it was fair to assume he'd be done. This seemed to be confirmed when he opened up with 1:49 and then only improved to 1:46 before USAs. But then he ran a season's best in each round to make the final! Nick was back and had clearly been chewing his Run Gum (another new project for him in 2014) as he ended up winning in 1:44 and threw up his trademarked temporary tattoos to show off his new company.
So this was awesome as a fan of Nick. He was back baby! US title number 6 over Eric Sowinski and his training partner Cas Loxsom. But... he didn't go to worlds! And this is where speculation begins because officially he didn't go to worlds because he said he had had issues with USATF when he was wearing Brooks gear instead of the team issued Nike gear. Par for Nick, he made a big deal about this and said his experience at World Indoors in 2014 informed this decision and that he would not be competing in Beijing. It all worked out as in Nick's place, a young college kid from Akron named Clayton Murphy got some good international experience that definitely helped him race the Olympics the next year and nab a Bronze medal!
But Nick's explanation didn't sit well with me at the time and still doesn't. Maybe someone has more info but at the time I assumed Nick knew he was not in shape to race at worlds and had kind of won USAs as a fluke, so he wanted to save himself from getting rocked at the world stage. However, now looking back I'm wondering if there was something else: glowing? serious injury? deeper conflict than he went into with USATF? This ended up being Nick's last US title and really his last notable performance as he was injured for the 2016 trials and ran 2017 USAs as farewell tour, only hitting 1:51 in his final race. I'm curious what others think about this.
I thought the MAIN, biggest secret...although not a wild theory...was that women at least, pre-1989, held an artificial-bladder of drug-free urine in their vaginas, AS they competed - then used it for their post-event urine sample, meaning a clean urine test. ...and THAT is why things changed and performance levels for women reduced so dramatically, when regular blood-tests arrived in 1989. ...blood-tests being almost impossible to easily fake, unlike urine tests. ...and lest we forget Mr. Róbert Fazekas fumbling the same sort of tech on the male side - please discus...
I remember Nijel Amos at Monaco a few years ago, he clearly had something inside his compression shorts that was visible sticking out at the side. I pointed it out here at the time and got the usual racist bleats.
I thought the MAIN, biggest secret...although not a wild theory...was that women at least, pre-1989, held an artificial-bladder of drug-free urine in their vaginas, AS they competed - then used it for their post-event urine sample, meaning a clean urine test. ...and THAT is why things changed and performance levels for women reduced so dramatically, when regular blood-tests arrived in 1989. ...blood-tests being almost impossible to easily fake, unlike urine tests. ...and lest we forget Mr. Róbert Fazekas fumbling the same sort of tech on the male side - please discus...
Women still do this in the NCAA. I had a teammate who did this, transferred to Iowa State.
I also know two others who cheat that transferred a few years after to Iowa State aa well and compete there now. Something about that school attracting cheaters.
Could be made up, but allegedly a former Nike runner may have unknowingly doped. He may have received a call shortly before his planned last race that he would "probably test positive" and he may have decided to retire after that. It's possible. Guess who was maybe coaching him then?
Here are some totally unrelated articles I thought would be an interesting read for no real reason.
I'm shocked this post that totally maybe possibly didn't happen hasn't gained any traction at all here since it's definitely not true at all and there's no reason to look into it more.
I thought the MAIN, biggest secret...although not a wild theory...was that women at least, pre-1989, held an artificial-bladder of drug-free urine in their vaginas, AS they competed - then used it for their post-event urine sample, meaning a clean urine test. ...and THAT is why things changed and performance levels for women reduced so dramatically, when regular blood-tests arrived in 1989. ...blood-tests being almost impossible to easily fake, unlike urine tests. ...and lest we forget Mr. Róbert Fazekas fumbling the same sort of tech on the male side - please discus...
I remember Nijel Amos at Monaco a few years ago, he clearly had something inside his compression shorts that was visible sticking out at the side. I pointed it out here at the time and got the usual racist bleats.
My friend passed a summer camp drug test with a fake dong. I believe it was called "The Wizzinator" lol. Anyway, I could totally believe female athletes doing something similar. They watch you pee, but they don't normally get close enough to really see it all. As long as you're acting business as usual, you have a high chance of getting away with it IMO.