If this were any American city, it would be called urban renewal. You’ve got a blighted area with foreclosed buildings and poor safety. You get investors, buy up the distressed properties [I believe Palestinians who don’t want to live with the new owners should be given a payout at market value plus 20% and should move to a place of their choosing, while those who do should be allowed to stay so long as they agree to live by the new rules (no firing rockets at civilians, no kidnapping or raping, no car bombs, etc.)]. Similar to what happened to the Palestinians who remained in Israel after previous wars (who enjoy a better standard of living than the Lebanese, the Syrians, the Jordanians or the Egyptians). October 7th ushered in a forced leadership change. I’m sorry it has come to this, but wars have consequences.
You're misreading his motivations. He is owned both under and over the table by the Zionist lobby, Israel and Netanyahu. As is our Congress. It's not about "mixing things up". This was always the plan.
Trump is definitely not owned by the "Zionist lobby" dawg he literally has the richest man in the world as his right hand man. Israel's entire GDP is $500bn, Elon Musk's net worth is $450bn, not to mention Zuck and Bezos. He doesn't need Israel's money. He doesn't need Israel at all.
Trump is just racist and wants to ethnically cleanse the region. You guys don't remember his muslim ban his first term? He's building concentration camps and people still don't seem to understand where things are going.
The respect Benjamin Netanyahu gets from Donald Trump is genuinely incredible to see. pic.twitter.com/WVYEZFWlTl
Trump is definitely not owned by the "Zionist lobby" dawg he literally has the richest man in the world as his right hand man. Israel's entire GDP is $500bn, Elon Musk's net worth is $450bn, not to mention Zuck and Bezos. He doesn't need Israel's money. He doesn't need Israel at all.
Trump is just racist and wants to ethnically cleanse the region. You guys don't remember his muslim ban his first term? He's building concentration camps and people still don't seem to understand where things are going.
Nothing Trump says will happen. There won’t be mass deportations. He’s deported a few hundred. Biden and Obama deported over 100,000 a year. He’s way behind them. The US won’t take the Gaza Strip. And everything else he says will not happen. Every executive order will get shot down in the courts.
If this were any American city, it would be called urban renewal. You’ve got a blighted area with foreclosed buildings and poor safety. You get investors, buy up the distressed properties [I believe Palestinians who don’t want to live with the new owners should be given a payout at market value plus 20% and should move to a place of their choosing, while those who do should be allowed to stay so long as they agree to live by the new rules (no firing rockets at civilians, no kidnapping or raping, no car bombs, etc.)]. Similar to what happened to the Palestinians who remained in Israel after previous wars (who enjoy a better standard of living than the Lebanese, the Syrians, the Jordanians or the Egyptians). October 7th ushered in a forced leadership change. I’m sorry it has come to this, but wars have consequences.
If that's the case, there are plenty on cities in America that could use, the billions going to cost. What happened to America first?
This would be an investment. It would cost about $20 billion to pay off the current residents (pay them about $10,000 a piece, which is 3x their average annual income). In the end, you pay less in annual aid to Israel or Palestine (currently we sink about $4 billion a year into this region). You generate tax revenue (to the tune of $1 billion or more a year) and it might reduce our military expense in the region overall.
If this were any American city, it would be called urban renewal. You’ve got a blighted area with foreclosed buildings and poor safety. You get investors, buy up the distressed properties [I believe Palestinians who don’t want to live with the new owners should be given a payout at market value plus 20% and should move to a place of their choosing, while those who do should be allowed to stay so long as they agree to live by the new rules (no firing rockets at civilians, no kidnapping or raping, no car bombs, etc.)]. Similar to what happened to the Palestinians who remained in Israel after previous wars (who enjoy a better standard of living than the Lebanese, the Syrians, the Jordanians or the Egyptians). October 7th ushered in a forced leadership change. I’m sorry it has come to this, but wars have consequences.
The thing is, it's not an American city and the proposal is not sounding optional. As others have said, you can't forcibly deport two million people. The permanent forcible transfer of populations is a crime under international law. It's not unclear.
anyone who supports this supports mass m*rder and suffering. You support ethnic cleansing. I'm not reading through all this bs. I'm no longer entertaining other views on this.
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This stupid plan has already been 'walked back' by the White House. Another of Trump's ideas that come to him whilst sitting on the toilet before his meetings
I'm really tired of people thinking Israel is some democracy or beacon of hope. This is just one thing...ONE THING about them that is horrific.
My personal favorite is Israel testing weapons on Palestinians in Gaza and labeling them as “battle tested” for their arms exportation industry! As you said, one of a million crimes against humanity we could list. The Zionists are the most evil people on the planet, bar absolutely none
Quite honestly, if Gaza was peaceful it has potential. Look at Israel. The place was a poor, loosely populated, forgotten, god forsaken back land with malaria swamps less than a century ago. It has been developed and cultivated and now has the highest per capita income in the surrounding region (by over a factor of 10). If people stop firing rockets and actually try to live peacefully, establish commerce and utilize their resources, they could thrive. Trump is looking at this as a developer. The places is in rubble. You basically need to start from scratch (demo what’s left of the buildings, recycle the concrete and rebar, get rid of all the unexplored munitions, upgrade the infrastructure and start building). You can’t accomplish this without investors and investors are going to stay away so long as people are still firing rockets, kidnapping people, etc. You don’t need to kick people entirely out, but you definitely need to isolate certain areas until you can ensure security, repair the infrastructure and re-inhabit the areas.
Palestine was literally called “the land of milk and honey”. It was the most fertile land on the Mediterranean and the region furthest south of the “Fertile Crescent” that extends along rhe sea, across the north of Syria and south between the Tigris and Euphrates rivers. It was not a “wasteland”… during WW I, all of the countries involved suffered a massive famine. Russia fell to the communists because of it. The combatants, including the Ottoman Empire (with all the Middle East under its control) had the same effect… all resources were diverted to the soldiers on the front in a war of attrition. Then, with rampant malnutrition across Europe, Africa and the Middle East, in 1917 we had a pandemic flu outbreak. The ‘rejuvenation’ had nothing to do with Zionists taking the land and ethnically cleansing it. The whole world recovered once the war ended and the pandemic subsided.
The problem with tiny Israel is that they’re Jews surrounded by a billion Muslims that want to wipe them off the face of the earth. Yet every time the Muslims try tiny Israel kicks their @$$. It’s almost like David and Goliath.
The problem with tiny Israel is that they’re Jews surrounded by a billion Muslims that want to wipe them off the face of the earth. Yet every time the Muslims try tiny Israel kicks their @$. It’s almost like David and Goliath.
Is that why, with over a hundred billion dollars of U.S. support, Israel couldn't achieve their stated aim of destroying Hamas and had to settle for a ceasefire?
In guerilla warfare - "The conventional army loses if it does not win. The guerrilla wins if he does not lose."
The problem with tiny Israel is that they’re Jews surrounded by a billion Muslims that want to wipe them off the face of the earth. Yet every time the Muslims try tiny Israel kicks their @$. It’s almost like David and Goliath.
This narrative is ridiculous. It was a military occupation that started with the displacement of hundreds of thousands of people from their homeland. It is continued to be a military occupation. This idea is just a myth and propaganda to make us westerners feel better when it is really just a US funded apartheid.
I'm trying to stay politically neutral here and focus on whether there is a potential way this could be a good idea. I'll lay out a scenario. Comment on that rather than the politics itself or whether you like or hate Trump/Israel/Palestine/etc. This is only addressing Gaza and not the wider issue of Israel/Palestinians/the West Bank/etc.
What if the US took over Gaza in the form of a lease, like Hong Kong before China took it back? Palestinians are temporarily removed to a safe locale (Jordan, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, etc). Those that have no skills are trained in industries (tourism, banking, etc) that will prosper in the new Gaza. Investors put their money in. 50% (or whatever makes sense from an investment standpoint) of all money goes into a Gaza wealth fund. The bombed out buildings are razed, ordinance cleared, security re-established. Infrastructure rebuilt, hotels, resorts, airports constructed. Schools and hospitals rebuilt. As hotels and other businesses open, the newly trained workers are brought back and returned to live and work in the newly rebuilt Gaza. Over time, the investors are phased out (typical venture capital expected return is 5:1 on initial investment, depending on timeframe). Eventually everyone is brought back, ownership is shared amongst all the Gazans via the wealth fund which is now 90% Gazan/10% US. The US and foreign investors exit. Upon our exit, we provide security guarantees (logical to protect our 10%) so that the Gazans don't need to have a military, which stops Hamas from attacking Israel.
Sounds a lot better than just leaving Palestinians there amongst the rubble, where nobody will invest, and they'll have to cobble their lives back together on their own while still being engaged in a continued on/off war with Israel.
I'm trying to stay politically neutral here and focus on whether there is a potential way this could be a good idea. I'll lay out a scenario. Comment on that rather than the politics itself or whether you like or hate Trump/Israel/Palestine/etc. This is only addressing Gaza and not the wider issue of Israel/Palestinians/the West Bank/etc.
What if the US took over Gaza in the form of a lease, like Hong Kong before China took it back? Palestinians are temporarily removed to a safe locale (Jordan, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, etc). Those that have no skills are trained in industries (tourism, banking, etc) that will prosper in the new Gaza. Investors put their money in. 50% (or whatever makes sense from an investment standpoint) of all money goes into a Gaza wealth fund. The bombed out buildings are razed, ordinance cleared, security re-established. Infrastructure rebuilt, hotels, resorts, airports constructed. Schools and hospitals rebuilt. As hotels and other businesses open, the newly trained workers are brought back and returned to live and work in the newly rebuilt Gaza. Over time, the investors are phased out (typical venture capital expected return is 5:1 on initial investment, depending on timeframe). Eventually everyone is brought back, ownership is shared amongst all the Gazans via the wealth fund which is now 90% Gazan/10% US. The US and foreign investors exit. Upon our exit, we provide security guarantees (logical to protect our 10%) so that the Gazans don't need to have a military, which stops Hamas from attacking Israel.
Sounds a lot better than just leaving Palestinians there amongst the rubble, where nobody will invest, and they'll have to cobble their lives back together on their own while still being engaged in a continued on/off war with Israel.
Nope. WE bombed that place into smithereens by giving Israel the weapons. We sanction Israel, arrest Netanyahu, pay billions in reparations and leave them the hell alone, back to the original border of the two-state solution, not the 2023 borders. Us trying to form yet another pseudo-government will only end in further occupation.
Of course, this will never happen. The genocide will start anew in Gaza again somehow at the rate this is going. For now Israel has to be satisfied with shooting kids in the West Bank instead.
I'm trying to stay politically neutral here and focus on whether there is a potential way this could be a good idea. I'll lay out a scenario. Comment on that rather than the politics itself or whether you like or hate Trump/Israel/Palestine/etc. This is only addressing Gaza and not the wider issue of Israel/Palestinians/the West Bank/etc.
What if the US took over Gaza in the form of a lease, like Hong Kong before China took it back? Palestinians are temporarily removed to a safe locale (Jordan, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, etc). Those that have no skills are trained in industries (tourism, banking, etc) that will prosper in the new Gaza. Investors put their money in. 50% (or whatever makes sense from an investment standpoint) of all money goes into a Gaza wealth fund. The bombed out buildings are razed, ordinance cleared, security re-established. Infrastructure rebuilt, hotels, resorts, airports constructed. Schools and hospitals rebuilt. As hotels and other businesses open, the newly trained workers are brought back and returned to live and work in the newly rebuilt Gaza. Over time, the investors are phased out (typical venture capital expected return is 5:1 on initial investment, depending on timeframe). Eventually everyone is brought back, ownership is shared amongst all the Gazans via the wealth fund which is now 90% Gazan/10% US. The US and foreign investors exit. Upon our exit, we provide security guarantees (logical to protect our 10%) so that the Gazans don't need to have a military, which stops Hamas from attacking Israel.
Sounds a lot better than just leaving Palestinians there amongst the rubble, where nobody will invest, and they'll have to cobble their lives back together on their own while still being engaged in a continued on/off war with Israel.
Nope. WE bombed that place into smithereens by giving Israel the weapons. We sanction Israel, arrest Netanyahu, pay billions in reparations and leave them the hell alone, back to the original border of the two-state solution, not the 2023 borders. Us trying to form yet another pseudo-government will only end in further occupation.
Of course, this will never happen. The genocide will start anew in Gaza again somehow at the rate this is going. For now Israel has to be satisfied with shooting kids in the West Bank instead.
So it's option B then...which is why it will still be the same in another 2000 years.
