Anyway, Valby will be fine. That was her first professional race and she’s working with a professional coach. Any coach worth their salt knows what needs to be worked on and works on it. That was a solid pro debut and I expect her to get better.
I agree, her not having a kick and getting a 7 second PB in what I would describe as her shortest event she will race(I doubt we see many mile races from her) she did well. I would compare her to Schweitzer in terms of her type or racing range. And to me at this stage she is far ahead of Karissa.
No, they don’t have a similar range. Schweitzer has run 2:03 and 4:00, and Valby will never run anywhere near those times.
I agree, her not having a kick and getting a 7 second PB in what I would describe as her shortest event she will race(I doubt we see many mile races from her) she did well. I would compare her to Schweitzer in terms of her type or racing range. And to me at this stage she is far ahead of Karissa.
No, they don’t have a similar range. Schweitzer has run 2:03 and 4:00, and Valby will never run anywhere near those times.
But Schweizer will likely never go sub30; Valby actually might.
Why didn't all the faster kickers behind her outkick her then?
Such as, 1:56 athlete Georgia Bell, for example.
Great point. They were about even at 2000. Valby put a 2 second gap on her over the last 1000. Bell’s kick must be worse kick than Valby’s. No leg speed…she should switch to trails or roads.
The transition to running as a pro is a big one for Valby because of her history with injuries and preference for a low mileage, heavy cross training. It is actually a good sign that she is healthy and adapting well to her new coach and training group instead of coming out with a fast indoor debut and then being injured for six months. It would be very tempting to push Valby beyond her limits to try and catch up with the E. Africans in a very short period of time. And that would probably have her in injury rehab more than it would having her healthy and racing well. Valby will be a longer term project and will probably need two or three seasons as a pro before we see her best running.
She has been essentially injury free for many years. A runner like Tuohybis injured more than she is healthy. What bar are you possibly using to declare Valby injured prone?
But Schweizer will likely never go sub30; Valby actually might.
Not to mention the fact that at Valby’s current age, Schweizer was running 2:09 and 4:17.
Schweizer ran 8:41 in NY in February 2018 which made her not quite 22, while Valby is about 22 1/2 as we speak. I suspect Schweizer could have run a bit faster than those times you posted at that time.,
Some people just like to hate on the success of elite athletes. Valby runs a PB and finishes 3rd in her professional debut, and you say the first woman to win 5 NCAA distance championships in one academic year will never win at the pro level. But let's be honest. Even if Valby had won that race yesterday, you or someone else would have said something spiteful like, "So what, it was just a meaningless race indoor race in February with weak competition; the top Kenyans and Ethiopians will crush her."
No matter what an American distance runner achieves, some people here will find a way to criticize or try to diminish the achievement. Centro wins an Olympic gold medal by front running and controlling the race, and some people try to dismiss it because of the time. Hocker wins an Olympic gold medal in an Olympic record, and some people say he got lucky and the guy who finished fourth was more impressive because he led almost the entire race. But even if someone front ran the entire Olympic final and won gold while setting a new world record, there would be haters accusing that athlete of doping.
Schweizer is probably a decent comp for all of Valby's over/unders. Might be that Schweizer finishes with a better mile, Valby a better 10000. Very similar in the 3000/5000 when all is said and done.
Or maybe Valby shocks a lot of people and blows Schweizer away
But Schweizer will likely never go sub30; Valby actually might.
That’s an example as to why they don’t have similar ranges and Valby might never break 14:30 like Schweitzer has.
In order to break 14:30, Parker will need to string together five 2:54 kilometers. If she gets setup time-trial races like BTC used to run, she might possibly do that as soon as next year…at BU, for instance. But it may be too soon to attempt that by next January.
That’s an example as to why they don’t have similar ranges and Valby might never break 14:30 like Schweitzer has.
In order to break 14:30, Parker will need to string together five 2:54 kilometers. If she gets setup time-trial races like BTC used to run, she might possibly do that as soon as next year…at BU, for instance. But it may be too soon to attempt that by next January.
Anywhooo, maybe Parker will be running Cross-Country in Florida next January?😆
Some people just like to hate on the success of elite athletes. Valby runs a PB and finishes 3rd in her professional debut, and you say the first woman to win 5 NCAA distance championships in one academic year will never win at the pro level. But let's be honest. Even if Valby had won that race yesterday, you or someone else would have said something spiteful like, "So what, it was just a meaningless race indoor race in February with weak competition; the top Kenyans and Ethiopians will crush her."
No matter what an American distance runner achieves, some people here will find a way to criticize or try to diminish the achievement. Centro wins an Olympic gold medal by front running and controlling the race, and some people try to dismiss it because of the time. Hocker wins an Olympic gold medal in an Olympic record, and some people say he got lucky and the guy who finished fourth was more impressive because he led almost the entire race. But even if someone front ran the entire Olympic final and won gold while setting a new world record, there would be haters accusing that athlete of doping.
Haters gonna hate.
Hate is a strong word and negative reaction is better. Valby does not yet deserve the amount of attention that she receives on LR. Young, Kessler, Wolfe, Strand , Graham and others, are all further along in their careers than Valby. She was a great NCAA runner but for whatever reason, it’s not as competitive on the women’s side.
No one with a clue, would scoff at Centro’s Gold Medal.
But Schweizer will likely never go sub30; Valby actually might.
That’s an example as to why they don’t have similar ranges and Valby might never break 14:30 like Schweitzer has.
You’re crazy If you don’t believe Valby will potentially run faster than Schweitzer.
not something I want to use as relevancy but it’s just to say Karisa’s times came with a lot more training and much harder workouts under her belt(Schumacher training)
everyone’s different and Valby probably wouldn’t thrive under a Schumacher type training load but it is to say that talent wise, Parker is on another level vs Karisa.
and ok 2:03 and 4:00 for Karisa is cool and all but that doesn’t mean that is within her competitive range of events. Those times can’t do anything on the world nor US stage. 3k-half marathon I see Valby ending her career faster than Karisa in them all
