But we know that 7:17 is clean. We know that for sure. About 6 seconds faster than Hicham. But at least we know Jakob is doing it the clean way.
Your post doesn't make much sense, just the usual "if a white runner runs faster than a doped African from 30 years ago, he must be doped to the max himself" type spam bot stupidity.
You're replying in a thread about super shoes and times, and I just accepted that El G would run 3:22 minimum today (with the same doping as the 90's). That's nearly 5 seconds faster than Jakob over 1500. Yet because Jakob runs 6 seconds faster over 3000m with wavelights, super shoes, and trampoline tracks, than El G did nearly 30 years ago, it proves Jakob must be doping and that I'm a racist? Right.
El G ran the 1500m 26 seconds faster than the great Paavo Nurmi did in 1924. The distance between Nurmi and El G is only and exactly 3 times as long as that between El G (1999) and Jakob (2024). Nurmi is known to have used testosterone back then. It follows that El G doped, right?
Nurmi used testosterone?
not exactly a PED offence when Nurmi advertised the elixer Rejuven, in public, encouraged others, where steroids were not banned, or even a thing.
Rejuven, the exact formulation I can't uncover, which is at the crux of an analysis,
is said to contain some testes extract, which would not have contained much testosterone.
might be a nice natural supplement.
with testosterone first synthesized in the mid 1930s, that would not be available to Nurmi.
other drugs like cocaine, morphine, amphetamines the war drugs, with booze and cigarettes, nicotine and cannabis whiskey extracts,
those would have been used for sure, by some, and certainly many medal holders, as well as pretty much every pro athlete, soccer, cycling, etc.
Your post doesn't make much sense, just the usual "if a white runner runs faster than a doped African from 30 years ago, he must be doped to the max himself" type spam bot stupidity.
You're replying in a thread about super shoes and times, and I just accepted that El G would run 3:22 minimum today (with the same doping as the 90's). That's nearly 5 seconds faster than Jakob over 1500. Yet because Jakob runs 6 seconds faster over 3000m with wavelights, super shoes, and trampoline tracks, than El G did nearly 30 years ago, it proves Jakob must be doping and that I'm a racist? Right.
El G ran the 1500m 26 seconds faster than the great Paavo Nurmi did in 1924. The distance between Nurmi and El G is only and exactly 3 times as long as that between El G (1999) and Jakob (2024). Nurmi is known to have used testosterone back then. It follows that El G doped, right?
Nurmi used testosterone?
not exactly a PED offence when Nurmi advertised the elixer Rejuven, in public, encouraged others, where steroids were not banned, or even a thing.
Rejuven, the exact formulation I can't uncover, which is at the crux of an analysis,
is said to contain some testes extract, which would not have contained much testosterone.
might be a nice natural supplement.
with testosterone first synthesized in the mid 1930s, that would not be available to Nurmi.
other drugs like cocaine, morphine, amphetamines the war drugs, with booze and cigarettes, nicotine and cannabis whiskey extracts,
those would have been used for sure, by some, and certainly many medal holders, as well as pretty much every pro athlete, soccer, cycling, etc.
edit above "every pro" to used in "every pro sport'
With super shoes El G would have undoubtedly been at least under 3:25, so yes I agree with his "3:24 minimum" statement, meaning 1.01 seconds or faster than what he did. Give him a rabbit, pacing lights, and super shoes, on perfect day for him, maybe he goes 3:23.
not exactly a PED offence when Nurmi advertised the elixer Rejuven, in public, encouraged others, where steroids were not banned, or even a thing.
Rejuven, the exact formulation I can't uncover, which is at the crux of an analysis,
is said to contain some testes extract, which would not have contained much testosterone.
might be a nice natural supplement.
with testosterone first synthesized in the mid 1930s, that would not be available to Nurmi.
other drugs like cocaine, morphine, amphetamines the war drugs, with booze and cigarettes, nicotine and cannabis whiskey extracts,
those would have been used for sure, by some, and certainly many medal holders, as well as pretty much every pro athlete, soccer, cycling, etc.
Well, the point is 'he was doping', just like Viren was doping even though it (blood doping) wasn't yet illegal. 'Rejuven' was sold as a drug, by a German company calling themselves 'The Elephant's Drugshop'.
And the further point is simply highlighting the stupidity of the doping shill spam bot claim that 'any runner beating a doper must be a doper themselves'.
Your comment is correct though. I found an interesting article about the Nurmi doping claims that has an admission from a leading Swedish runner from that era admitting that they all took amphetamines and other stuff.
'There were a lot of drugs being used in the 1930s,' said the now 94-year-old Edvin Wide, who was Sweden's leading runner in the 1920s. 'Amphetamine was commonly used in the 1930s. Athletes took it and even old ladies used to take it to brighten themselves up.'
Paavo Nurmi, the 'Flying Finn' who accumulated 10 Olympic gold medals in the 1920s, took performance-enhancing drugs during his legendary running career, the...
I'm a bit late, but on question. Could prime El G have soloed a 3:28.24 like Jakob did in Paris? I'm a bit 50/50 on that question.
El G ran 29 sub 3:30 times, I think I've seen everyone of them that is one Youtube. I don't recall him frontrunning a single one of them. (Not saying that he wasn't capable of it, but he seems to never have tried it). El G did run a fantastic 3:27.65 in Seville 1999 (which happens to be an exact tie with Hocker's 3:27.65, as the fastest winning time in a Championships). In that race El G did get pacemaking help the first 850m by fellow countryman Adil Kaouch.
The two fastest soloruns/frontruns/runs without pacemaker help are Jakob in Paris 2024 (3:28.24) and Cheruiyot in Doha 2019 (3:29.26). Are there any other sub-3:30 solo races?
I'm a bit late, but on question. Could prime El G have soloed a 3:28.24 like Jakob did in Paris? I'm a bit 50/50 on that question.
El G ran 29 sub 3:30 times, I think I've seen everyone of them that is one Youtube. I don't recall him frontrunning a single one of them. (Not saying that he wasn't capable of it, but he seems to never have tried it). El G did run a fantastic 3:27.65 in Seville 1999 (which happens to be an exact tie with Hocker's 3:27.65, as the fastest winning time in a Championships). In that race El G did get pacemaking help the first 850m by fellow countryman Adil Kaouch.
The two fastest soloruns/frontruns/runs without pacemaker help are Jakob in Paris 2024 (3:28.24) and Cheruiyot in Doha 2019 (3:29.26). Are there any other sub-3:30 solo races?
As some said before Jakob wouldn't even run 3:32 in these conditions and tracks of the 80s. Jakob running style is essentially flat.
