Here is what say El Guerrouj about the Super-Shoes and Jakob race in Paris

I'll just cover the verb forms:

rain - v.: to send down rain

reign - v.: to rule

rein - v.: to control or direct with reins or as if with reins

But if El G is the king of the 1500m and mile, then he can be said to reign, too, rather than just rein it in.

Did this guy have any ‘sketchy’ occurrences like the Auito chap (besides coming from Morocco)?

Sorry, meant Said Aouita, referring to his Australian team thing.

El G doesn’t have anything like that (or worse) on his resume, no?

The more interesting question is :

what would HEG run without EPO, with super shoes and wave light ? Would he run 3:26:00? I'm not sure he would.

Training partners busted.

Retired the same year that EPO testing was introduced. (don't give me that c*a* about him 'achieving all he wanted to in athletics'. He was earning millions of dollars a year in appearance fees alone and could easily have gone on for another 2 or 3 years without any drop in his market value or 'legacy'.

Also, the HGH braces.

Most likely. But super shoes and spikes would help him with training as well and that's more of a benefit than racing in a super spikes itself.

But why are ashamed to reveal your name?

Reason we saw this year 5 runners under 1.42 in the 800m, 3 of them have done twice.

I'm too honest to recognize that Rudisha, Kipketer were the best 800m runners. (*)

(*) I'm sorry for you Coevett, Sebatian Coe and Keely are in the sous-grade category.

While the freaks are Athing and Maura. Is it too difficult to recognize that?

YES SIR!!!!!!!! I agree with you fully!!!!!!!

Rudisha will always be the best 800m in the most authentic undoped and honest form with no fake shoes and tracks!!!!

First of all you moron I am tongue in cheek in my post, which you are too stupid to grasp. Secondly, my name? I am surprised your parents named you UKValues. They maybe didn’t care for you too much?

Watch your racist mouth sir!!!!!!!!

El G is a protected and preserved territory around here alright!!!!!!!!

Wait darling???????

Are you saying my man Hicham El King Guerrouj is dirty or something?????

That's impossible alright!!!!!!!!

The difference between Eliud Kipchoge and Hicham El King Guerrouj is that the latter had more consistent behavioral, attitudinal and ethical/moral space-time while the latter was flip flopping like sandwiches and burgers you feeling me????????

So while also both had training partners busted, the crucial difference was that El G HAD ALREADY RETIRED by the time Adil Kaouch was busted in 2005 isn't it??????????

Whereas Kipchoge was still a high performance athlete in the period that Sammy was busted with testosterone and still is today!!!!

The devil is in the details of the respective space-time of these 2 athletes!!!!!!!!!

It's all about the SUSCEPTIBILITY of space, and, of time!!!!!!!!!! It's not about space and time per se!!!!!!!

Yes that's correct darling!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The following year he was confident with his coach Kader when asked by a British Journalist that he would be bring down the mile record to a point it would never be breached ever after:

3:40/41!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

But he was unfortunate to be beset with hematoma I believe. It was well known back then, the Moroccan King paid for all his treatment and treated him like A GENIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

So the reason why El G failed to perform on his promise to run 3:24 and 3:40/41 is because of only 1 reason:

HEMATOMA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! A COMPROMISED HEALTH AND IMMUNE SYSTEM that affected his delicate high performance output!!!!!!!!!!

I agree with Coevett 100% here - a MOROCCAN endurance runner holds a WR 28 years on, set before EPO tests valid and before wave lights and new shoes. And retires when EPO tests validated and whilst he is still earning perhaps more than any T+F athlete at the time. I mean, what are the odds? Yes of course he was very talented and trained very hard and well.

re the barrage of sub 1.42 M800s this year, someone mentioned, isn't this closely related to the legal Bicarb supplement being refined this year - as the M800 step change after many years of stasis is not in any way mirrored at 400m or 1500m

Yeah, if El G was healthy with no compromised immune system like hematoma, he would most definitely run 3:24 which is why you and I both believe with the same set of cheat shoes and tracks today given to him, he would then run 3:22 minimum in 2024 (assuming no 4G/5G/3G/BT/bluetooth, because there was none in 1998 so we need to control these factors to recreate the same environmental circumstances to allow the cheat shoes and tracks to take effect with no confounding!!!)

Nah come on sir!!!!!!!! The reason why we must impute only talent and hardwork and skill to El G's performances rather than drugs is because of the applicable law of susceptibility of space-time that I apply to all my reasons and persuasions, you feeling me sir??????

I feel what you say when you think El G was on EPO to do what he did but you need to assess El G and his space-time holistically you feeling me sir???????

Meaning I need you to be interested also in El G's extraordinary Muslim (religious) humility, the conviction in his tones, his words with the powerful intent that springs from them you feeling me sir???????

El G actually goes to such extent to actually explicitly claim "I AM CLEAN, AND IF I AM FOUND OUT GUILTY OF DRUGS, I PROMISE TO RETURN WHATEVER I GAINED BACK TO THE SPORT. I WILL GIVE BACK MY MILLIONS, PERIOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

Similarly remember in Genesis in the Christian bible, the only religious book in the universe that explicit has its God say fearlessly "I AM GOD", "I AM YAHWEH", you see the analogy and similarity sir???? If you are really God, first requirement is that YOU MUST SAY IT OUT LOUD AND PROCLAIM IT IN SPACE-TIME!!!!!!!!! There will be other requirements that follow from this first requirement but this is the preface and prerequisite to all the rest!!!!!!!

Now coming to folks like Kipchoge when asked 'are you doping or are you a doper' or even indirectly asked 'what do you think about doping in sport' his first response isn't to categorically clear the air about himself by saying like El G:

"I AM CLEAN A 100% AND IF I AM FOUND GUILTY IN SPACE AND TIME I WILL RETURN ALL MY WEALTH AND FORTUNE BACK TO THE SPORT AMEN"

Instead Kipchoge waxes philosophical and goes on a beating around the bush talking about other Kenya young boys and girls and how they are so morally corrupted and polluted etc, and what must be done to save their souls etc except talking directly ABOUT HIS OWN CLEANLINESS FROM DOPING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You see that's the substantial space-time difference between El G and Kipchoge!!!!!!!!!!

Kipchoge is missing the 1st step, the 1st requirement of moral incorruptibility with regards to doping, and missing this one then disadvantages all the rest of the space-time requirements that follow on its back to also prop up the evidence that he is also clean from drugs!!!!

And that's why, sorry to say here, Coevett has got this one wrong about El G!!!!!!!!!!

More like 3:22.99 right now after minusing hematoma which El G suffered in the late 1990s due to a compromised immune system, cheat shoes and cheat track surfaces!!!!!