Honestly, the fact that they are still associating with her means they think she's innocent. If they felt like they had something to hide (or were doping themselves), they'd go into self-protect/PR mode. The fact that they don't, to me, seems like they aren't dirty.
Honestly, the fact that they are still associating with her means they think she's innocent. If they felt like they had something to hide (or were doping themselves), they'd go into self-protect/PR mode. The fact that they don't, to me, seems like they aren't dirty.
I think that still associating with her means they also are all on drugs and don't care. Shelby just seems to be the one that was caught.
Honestly, the fact that they are still associating with her means they think she's innocent. If they felt like they had something to hide (or were doping themselves), they'd go into self-protect/PR mode. The fact that they don't, to me, seems like they aren't dirty.
Or they’re worried that she will sell her story and implicate them.
Maybe, these women are all capable of separating Shelby the doper from Shelby the person. Shelby has plenty of friends outside these 4 women too that aren't elite runners. My guess is she's generally pretty nice, and fun to hang out with.
They aren't all on the same team anymore, and I wouldn't expect them all to be on the same team in the future. It's a group of friends/former co-workers on a quick fall vacation together. They didn't break any rules by vacationing together.
But please, continue to hate someone who disappointed you as a fan. You're entitled to your own feelings.
I have no skin in this game. There's certainly nothing wrong with going on a trip with a friend. Why post the pictures tho? It just invites suspicion.
Agreed. It's optics. Imagine being a sponsor and seeing this. Not a good look.
The gleeful joy that people take in attacking Shelby is weird. I don't see people licking their chops and getting all excited to rip into Nigel Amos on 50 threads.
You Shelby haters are not wrong about the doping, but you are wrong to take so much pleasure in going after her. That is not healthy.
People in our sport do dope, they do get caught (sometimes), and they do their time. We move on. We don't relish and gobble up every bit of schadenfreude about every individual. That is not a good way to live your life.
A little Mexican Vacay for the dopers, how cute! An adjudicated doper and they still hang with her; how sad. If this was a Kenyan or Ethiopian they would be complaining, but because it's a white girl they all believe the BS. I used the like Karissa, now she goes on the sh!t list too because now one must assume that she was also doping. This is not a good look IMHO.
Maybe not the same thing … but my friend cheater on their spouse a few years ago. I’m still friends with them. People make mistakes.
BTW, I can’t stand Shelby. She’s always acting like she’s so edgy with the non-super shoes and tattoos, but then does basic shizz like go to Mexico with a bunch of white girls. But she did her time.
If you had a coworker you were friends with and they defrauded the company you were working at would you still hang out with that person? Post pictures on Linkedin?
You may still be friends with them on a personal level but you probably wouldn't advertise it on social media, right?
I am also curious if you would still be friends with your teammates if they got popped and denied it to your face? If any of my best friends came to me and said, "somebody messed up the test or spiked me or something. I never took this stuff," I would believe them.
Do you have friends like that? Friends you trust and believe more than some WADA protocol and random test procedure?
The gleeful joy that people take in attacking Shelby is weird. I don't see people licking their chops and getting all excited to rip into Nigel Amos on 50 threads.
You Shelby haters are not wrong about the doping, but you are wrong to take so much pleasure in going after her. That is not healthy.
People in our sport do dope, they do get caught (sometimes), and they do their time. We move on. We don't relish and gobble up every bit of schadenfreude about every individual. That is not a good way to live your life.
I was a huge fan but it’s not like she got caught, admitted it and moved on herself.
She denied everything, blamed everyone, continued training with the Nike sponsored group, started a go fund me, done favorable podcasts.
SHE has kept herself in the discussion and to this day she has never admitted fault or apologized.
The gleeful joy that people take in attacking Shelby is weird. I don't see people licking their chops and getting all excited to rip into Nigel Amos on 50 threads.
You Shelby haters are not wrong about the doping, but you are wrong to take so much pleasure in going after her. That is not healthy.
People in our sport do dope, they do get caught (sometimes), and they do their time. We move on. We don't relish and gobble up every bit of schadenfreude about every individual. That is not a good way to live your life.
Fans of the sport are weird for being upset that they were essentially lied to by one of the BEST female distance runners in history?
Fans are weird for being upset that she made $250k a year and begged for money via GoFundMe?
Why should WE move on? SHELBY should move on.
Don't come on here and tell us we should not hate on a doper. Dopers ruined our sport.
If she just admitted it (ala Martin Fagan style) it would be different.
She made up some weird excuse about tainted meat (LOL) and blamed everyone else.
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I am also curious if you would still be friends with your teammates if they got popped and denied it to your face? If any of my best friends came to me and said, "somebody messed up the test or spiked me or something. I never took this stuff," I would believe them.
Do you have friends like that? Friends you trust and believe more than some WADA protocol and random test procedure?
If the tests were messed up or spiked they would have proven that a long time ago. I would not still be friends with a drug cheat if they failed to clear themselves.
Would you be friends with a murderer if they were in jail for life but said they didn't do it?
A little Mexican Vacay for the dopers, how cute! An adjudicated doper and they still hang with her; how sad. If this was a Kenyan or Ethiopian they would be complaining, but because it's a white girl they all believe the BS. I used the like Karissa, now she goes on the sh!t list too because now one must assume that she was also doping. This is not a good look IMHO.
I have no skin in this game. There's certainly nothing wrong with going on a trip with a friend. Why post the pictures tho? It just invites suspicion.
Agreed. It's optics. Imagine being a sponsor and seeing this. Not a good look.
Not sure what Shelby's sponsorship situation looks like at the moment but the rest are active Nike athletes. I doubt this violates their contracts, Nike has done way more suspect things than Shelby did.
As for the pictures, it's pretty normal for women aged 22-32, to post the fun time they had on vacation on social media.
A little Mexican Vacay for the dopers, how cute! An adjudicated doper and they still hang with her; how sad. If this was a Kenyan or Ethiopian they would be complaining, but because it's a white girl they all believe the BS. I used the like Karissa, now she goes on the sh!t list too because now one must assume that she was also doping. This is not a good look IMHO.
I am also curious if you would still be friends with your teammates if they got popped and denied it to your face? If any of my best friends came to me and said, "somebody messed up the test or spiked me or something. I never took this stuff," I would believe them.
Do you have friends like that? Friends you trust and believe more than some WADA protocol and random test procedure?