Just brutal for the northeast. Turns out kids prefer a fun community atmosphere, not activism and drama. No doubt the prettier girls make a difference too(southern belles that look like women vs blue haired activists at columbia)
The WSJ has turned into a right wing rag. That's just bullsh*t.
The reason kids go south from the northeast is:
1. Sports
2. The weather
3. They can't get into a decent school up here because they have standards.
no. my coworker is from UGA. he knows people in the admissions department and he said 2022 was highest intake of applicants from Ny and NJ ever. an huge increase. all because of covid.
It's completely fair to say that kids that don't prioritize rigor, academics, research, and quality of faculty above all else should go somewhere besides the top-tier universities.
It's GOOD that people are sorting to where their priorities lie.
Not everyone is going to be a surgeon, big law lawyer, work in PE, or be a R1 research prof.
But that is not how you presented it. I guess the word “productive” was the operative word. You come off as an arrogant prick. Perhaps be aware of it maybe?
Moreover, top-tier universities don’t just include HYPMS, and perhaps that is the point. Nobody is arguing that HYPMS aren’t the best. The debate is that kids can go to good or even “elite” schools just about anywhere, even in the south, and still reach the upper echelons of academia, research, private practice, etc.
Just look at yourself (your alter ego) in one David Baltimore. He attended Swarthmore College for undergrad and The Rockefeller University for his PhD. Is it because he (you) couldn’t get into HYPMS? Was he (you) disadvantaged relative to HYPMS? Was his (your) career trajectory worse because he went to lowly Swarthmore? No, it wasn’t. And Swarthmore is a damn good school, an elite school even and a more well rounded education.
Just like your hero in Anthony Fauci went to Holy Cross and studied classics. Didn’t hinder his career. Again, probably made him a more well rounded person. That’s the point. So, maybe stop with the LOL and gotcha about some schools finally returning to “not test optional” when nobody ever asserted that Duke was better than HYPMS in the first place.
Swarthmore/Rockefeller is just fine. I would’ve preferred that path next to Harvard/Yale. LOL LOL
Call me elitist, sure, but I think it's important that the schools that turn out the highest numbers of top tier researchers, doctors, etc should continue to do so. They do this by attracting the kids with the most ambition and talent.
Kids who prioritize other things go elsewhere and that's good for everyone. There is nothing stopping them from achieving as much of more (by any metric) than kids in the first group, and I never suggested otherwise.
To be a bit more blunt, an 18 year old who is scared of the political climate at Harvard is not someone I would expect to capitalize on the opportunity to attend. Win-win.