Is she definitely a Rosa athlete as someone here said? I don't see her promoted on the IG handle and there were some performances that could justify it.
I can't say with 100% certainty, but she's listed as a Rosa athlete on her WA profile: (click the "Representative" button).
Distance running is at the core of Kenyan identity. A ban from global competition would be viewed as an attack on the heart and soul of Kenya. Officials at IOC, WA, etc. do not have the guts to ban Kenya. A ban would prompt a massive political outcry probably followed by a quick reversal of the decision.
And yet I'm always told here (including by 'Kenyans') that athletics is a minority sport that few Kenyans care about, and all anybody is interested in is whether Barcelona or Man United won their last matches.
If Athletics Kenya can't afford to test ANY athletes, which has been the case for 2 months since the Olympics, they HAVE to be banned.
And the reason the government can't afford to pay Kenyan anti-doping is they have to balance their own budget or raise taxes, which resulted in mass riots just 3 months ago.
The Kenya Finance Bill protests, widely known by #RejectFinanceBill2024, or Gen Z protests, were a series of decentralized mass protests in Kenya against tax increases proposed by the Government of Kenya in the Finance Bill 2...
And yet I'm always told here (including by 'Kenyans') that athletics is a minority sport that few Kenyans care about, and all anybody is interested in is whether Barcelona or Man United won their last matches.
Probably true. I'm talking about how the world perceives Kenya. Ban them and they will take that as an attack on their success and milk it for all the sympathy they can get.
I have a friend in Eldoret. He trains with a lot of the big guns. He is far from a big gun himself but knows a lot of them. He doesn't deny that there is a big doping problem and says there is a lot of corruption that maintains the problem. But he also says that many of the athletes who are taking stuff really don't know that it's something illegal. Given that, I think when she says she was given an injection of something she didn't know by someone she didn't know is possible. Yes, it's hard to believe that an elite level runner in this era could have that happen to her. But who knows? If she's young and new to the sport and doesn't pore over running message boards maybe she really just trusted someone who told her the shot would help. That doesn't make it right and does nothing to address the problem but if that really happened I do feel a bit sorry for her.
Renato used to use the 'Kenyans never cheat (too religious and smiley and love their mothers too much), and the ones who are caught are so stupid they don't even realise they're doing anything wrong' excuse perhaps a decade ago.
Haven't heard it for a while.
Funny how you and your buddy Steve are happy to attack Renato but never use your real names.
Renato used to use the 'Kenyans never cheat (too religious and smiley and love their mothers too much), and the ones who are caught are so stupid they don't even realise they're doing anything wrong' excuse perhaps a decade ago.
Haven't heard it for a while.
Maybe it was true when he said it, and Kenya has changed. Renato also said around that time that he warned Athletics Kenya of foreigners importing a drug problem, and was told to go away.
Seems like this changed around about 10-15 years ago.
At what point does World Athletics ban Kenya? They have to be rivaling Russia in terms of athletes who have been popped.
The short answer is never. WA cannot ban a country regardless of how many athletes are popped.
They can ban a federation (e.g. Athletics Kenya) if they are acting bad. WADA can ban ADAK, if they are non-compliant, and can revoke WADA Lab certification for compliance failures.
But even then, athletes are usually allowed to compete under neutral colors, with conditions.
EPO doesn't work on elite Kenyans anyway. So why is she banned?
The bigger question is why give EPO to athletes in the first place who are already naturally stimulated to produce high quantities of EPO?
That's like asking why GDR coaches gave female athletes testosterone when they 'were already naturally stimulated to produce testosterone through lifting weights'.
At what point does World Athletics ban Kenya? They have to be rivaling Russia in terms of athletes who have been popped.
The short answer is never. WA cannot ban a country regardless of how many athletes are popped.
They can ban a federation (e.g. Athletics Kenya) if they are acting bad. WADA can ban ADAK, if they are non-compliant, and can revoke WADA Lab certification for compliance failures.
But even then, athletes are usually allowed to compete under neutral colors, with conditions.
Yes, they can. They came close to banning Kenya several years ago as a result of the number of athletes being popped. Kenya survived by agreeing to spend x amount of money on doping, and x number of tests each year, both agreements they have now reneged upon.
”pedigree”, so now every Texan and Floridian kid who has been using since grade 9 or 10 will be legit because they have a “pedigree”?
WTF is the matter with you people? Willful blindness? You WANT/NEED yo see the world in a particular light, for whatever reason…maybe because you cannot bear to admit that you are deeply wrong about peoples’ basic constitutions.
You would have made great missionaries.
Such hubris, it’s such a dead end. Your fantasy world is boring af to me. You’re like the trust-funders who proudly display their “equality” and “WWE” buttons while sitting in first-class.
Anybody who actually believes that ANY modern elite distance athlete is clean is a moran, always groping for excuses/justifications/explanations/deniability, in an attempt to feel better about themselves.
The bigger question is why give EPO to athletes in the first place who are already naturally stimulated to produce high quantities of EPO?
That's like asking why GDR coaches gave female athletes testosterone when they 'were already naturally stimulated to produce testosterone through lifting weights'.
Oh, you probably do ask that question.
Good comparison. Having some or even "high quantities" of xyz does not mean that more won't be better. That should be obvious, so that rekrunner question is either evidence for his low IQ or trolling.
Natural Epo is also not better than artificial Epo. In a way, giving additional Epo to an athlete living at 2000 m is comparable to having him move to 3000 - 4000 m, without all the problems arising from living and training at 4000 m. Thus their extra high Epo amount is actually not superhuman, because it could be achieved naturally.
So rekrunner doesn't need to worry about superhuman metabolism and energy kinetics and basic biology.
