Will 3:26.00 fall in Brussels? Update: We doubt it as we've been told pacing lights will be set for 3:30.00

He was 39.66 on the dot. Go back and watch the race. Came through 1200 alone in 2:46.34

Can we please ban Khamis? It was a decent thread before he barged in filled it with absolute junk. Happened on a bunch of other threads too the past few months.

Yes Jakob isn’t really equipped to run, say, for example, a 46 second 400m. Now I understand that this is not something you can agree with, as you believe “anything can happen.” But you see there are cold hard realities out there. I know you probably think Jakob can run 1:41 because “anything can happen.” But again this is where you and I disagree. I don’t believe “anything can happen.” So while you can go ahead and cling to your “anything can happen,” I will inexorably remain within the world of reality, where there actually are limitations. We shall see.

Hahaha I know you are a troll but I mean come on. The reason why he can’t go through 400 in 53-54 is because it ruins his energy/lactate. El Guerrouj could pull this off because his anaerobic power and efficiency was off the charts (he was also probably doped but you are just going to write another paragraph on how it was actually his beautiful stride so) With wavelight he probably could have ran 3:25 flat instead of 3:26. For Jakob, he has an insane aerobic threshold. His strength is keeping a consistent speed and keeping a steady increase of lactic acid throughout the race until the very end. That is how he breaks this record.

My dear Khamis—how can you slander El G by suggesting he didn’t care for the 5000?

King El G competed for and WON an Olympic Gold in the 5K. The greatest runners demonstrate their greatness over multiple distances. Jakob is showing us his greatness over 1500 / 3000 / 5000 just as El G did 20 years ago.

HUH????? How could Jakob run a 46s 400m all out???????? No way on earth sir!!!!!!!

Impossible, some things are truly impossible. Some people simply cannot climb Mount Everest too!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Limits are good and benefits many people!!!!!!!!!!!!! Limits and boundaries are set for a reason so that man don't usurp God's supreme power and reign!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You feeling me sir???????????

Jakob shall not run 46s if he will lose his soul and become more reckless in his morals and ethics!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! God will set the limit on him alright!!!!!!!!!!!!

"Impossible is really impossible"-----New Nike Slogan created by Khamis the RF King!!!!

Are you some sort of a bot, or maybe an IDI(b)OT? I wrote he cannot run 46, as an example to illustrate my point with hyperbole.

Sorry my RF bot missed that detail, it happens sometimes!!!!

DLR grinded for a year to shave off the last ~100 ms, more so

EL G's 5000m foray was as short as a pigmy alright sir!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It was ephemeral and wasn't all that brilliant except the gold. He only ran 12:48 but knew he had so much more to give but the toll had taken on his body due to much illness from asthma and hematoma. He lost precious health running too many 3:26s in the 8 years leading up to 2003/04. It takes a toll and even if he wanted to do something great at 5k and 10k he knew he was already 30 years old in 2005 and knew the time for WRs was over in these 2 events too.

All the 5k and 10k WR holders were 21, 22, 23 in the 1980s, 1990s and 2000s and 2020. El G cannot be the exception at 30/31, so he knew and retired!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It was impossible!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! He would have to do drugs to break the 5 and 10!!!!!!!!!!!!!! But he didn't want to, he was honorable devout Muslim who loved Allahu!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Agree with all of this. The issue is quite simple - is his profile such that he can run 55.2 seconds for 3 laps in a row and not burst that threshold line?

Unfortunately we don't really have any evidence as yet to support this. 1) He's never attempted or even appeared to contemplate those paces through 4 and 800m and 2) The closest we have seen to this was Paris where off that opening lap he was"only" capable of 1.52.4 for the next 800m - still awesome, but not good enough to be in WR territory. 3) His 800m ability is still a mystery but I don't think it's crazy to think he's a 1.45.0 guy at best (and some people might even think that's a stretch) - but even that doesn't really point to the ability to absorb an 800m interim time in the low to mid 1.50's.

People might then say "well how can he be able to run 1.51.2/3 so easily and go on to 3.26.7 but not 1.50.5 - it's not that much difference" - sure, but we have to realize that due the pinpoint scientific approach of his training and wavelight which enables pinpoint execution of pace judgement, he is already right at the cusp of his physiological boundaries. That's a great thing - and it's led him to these world best/record performances as well as historical greatness in the 1500m (3.26 + OC) and 5000m (2xWC, 1xOC) already. But it also means the margins for improvement may not be as large as we hope they might be.

Yeah we just fundamentally disagree man. Using Paris is disingenuous. We all know he front ran that. I think we are on the same page that pacers help. Are we really going to pretend if he didn't have Tim C pacing him 54.9-57-57 like actually did he wouldn't have been able to close significantly faster than 41 for the last 300? I know for a fact in my personal experience front-running vs drafting would have left me about 3 seconds off my true mile ability.

He can also absolutely break 1:45. DEFINITELY not 1:43, but 1:44.7 or 8 or so? Absolutely. He ran 1:46.4 in a one off race during COVID when his PB's were 3:30 and 4:50.

Paris is not a very relavant example; there were no pacers there.

Your arguments just overall really remind me of the people in 2021 who were saying Cole Hocker was a 3:35 guy after winning USOT's with 25 second last 200 in 3:35. Or the million and a half threads who keep saying "Jakob can't POSSIBLY run faster than this, he just set his lifetime PR". I just think you undersell him a bit for whatever reason. His Monaco race this year was not within 0.3 seconds of his lifetime genetic potential

This is true

Good post.

I'm gonna say YES!

Only because that Jakob will be bouncing back from a slight cold that most likely forced him to rest the past week. In many cases when an athlete is forced to rest after a brief illness there's a "rebound" effect. His fitness is definitely there, and if all else goes well as mentioned in the OP, he will run very fast.

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