Or anyone outside of the top 4 really. It's hard to believe that the heat was so oppressive that the whole field melted at those paces.
I think Dylan Jacobs (ran solidly) and Sean McGorty (coming off injury) should be exempt. Hocker obviously was affected by all the running in the build-up like Centro suspected he would be. Woody may be just getting old. Teare, Hacker, Muhumed, Beadlescomb I just dk.
Why are you so upset haha. I’m just referring to his NCAA years where he seemed to struggle to win some races. And early in his bowerman days when he was developing. He seems to find ways to win more now. That’s all.
yeah a great career he had at Stanford, though Morgan McDonald seemed to get the better of him in his senior year; it definitely helped to have guys like Mo Ahmed and Lopez L. as teammates at BTC when he started out as a pro...
Or anyone outside of the top 4 really. It's hard to believe that the heat was so oppressive that the whole field melted at those paces.
I think Dylan Jacobs (ran solidly) and Sean McGorty (coming off injury) should be exempt. Hocker obviously was affected by all the running in the build-up like Centro suspected he would be. Woody may be just getting old. Teare, Hacker, Muhumed, Beadlescomb I just dk.
I agree, Jacobs ran really well considering he hasn’t had a stellar season this year. McGorty will probably be disappointed with sixth but considering he’s been hurt all year he ran a solid race, just wasn’t as sharp as he was in this situation last year. Idk what’s been up with Teare lately, I thought he would’ve made the team for at least one of two events he was running after he ran 12:54 and 3:32, but he was way off the back when Grant dropped the hammer down. The finish between Grant and Nur was reminiscent of the 2012 trials between Rupp and Lagat when Rupp lost the lead in the last 100m but then got it back right before the finish to hold off Lagat.
Fish had some fight up the straight. You rarely see a runner rebuttal in the last 50m like that. For being a somewhat unassuming individual I’d like to see him harden up a bit, go through some heavy stuff, and start showin’ the track and field world the villain it never deserved.
I think Dylan Jacobs (ran solidly) and Sean McGorty (coming off injury) should be exempt. Hocker obviously was affected by all the running in the build-up like Centro suspected he would be. Woody may be just getting old. Teare, Hacker, Muhumed, Beadlescomb I dk.
McGorty, for the second straight year now, overtrained himself into a stress fracture or reaction In January and missed winter training. This, after three prior surgeries dating back to Stanford.
Sean's been a professional since 2018 -- and still hasn't figured out how to keep himself healthy. That's not the MO of a world class athlete. Being on the outside looking in, well, he brought it on himself. Still expecting him to break 13:00 for 5k sometime in his career -- possibly later this summer -- but making WC's last year then doing nothing in Budapest will very likely be the highlight of his career.
As for the other four highlighted above, all are two years out of college, set prs indoors and out, yet let a couple of guys just a few weeks removed from their junior years of college to absolutely clown them. Especially Hacker, after such a wonderful indoor season. No matter how talented Wolfe and Blanks are, they never should have have been that far ahead.
Note that Abdi is also in his second year as a pro and has now made his third national team. He's manned up -- the others haven't.
And, Nico Young. Four years out of hs. Probably better than all of these guys in the 5k & 10k when in top form.
With the Oly Trials in the books, we now have competitive results to show that up-and-comers on the US 5k scene with the chops to make national teams are Nur, Young, Wolfe, and Blanks. Maybe Jacobs as well, who did make a concerted effort to stay connected until a couple laps to go.
These are the guys I'm pulling for.
The others? Prove yourselves. Be competitive for Tokyo WCs at the 2025 US champs.
Read my posts as this was what I had been talking about. Grant had a world of a difference makeover like the messiah returned to earth in the 5k trials final as compared to the 10k one!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I'm so upset at Grant that my stomach is seething hurting!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! He robbed my beloved Mike Smith (true distance clean coach) protege Abdi Nur of the gold!!!!!!!!!!!!
Or anyone outside of the top 4 really. It's hard to believe that the heat was so oppressive that the whole field melted at those paces.
I think Dylan Jacobs (ran solidly) and Sean McGorty (coming off injury) should be exempt. Hocker obviously was affected by all the running in the build-up like Centro suspected he would be. Woody may be just getting old. Teare, Hacker, Muhumed, Beadlescomb I just dk.
Incorrect, you like to think my comments are always wrong if they are subjective but hey yours are just as subjective as mine LOL!!!!!
"You think Dylan Jacobs ran solidly"----that's subjective come on........
"You think Sean McGorty should be exempt----that's subjective come on......
"You think hocker obviously was affected by all the running in the build-up rather than him doping here and there?"-----that's subjective come on....
"You think Woody getting old"----that's subjective come on dude.......like is that all you got???
"And you don't know about Hacker and the rest......"....................
And you have guys on LRC coming at me in drones mortifying me for my 'subjective' also comments and insights??????
Look dear all, I Khamis am the KING OF SUBJECTIVITY AND DECIPHERING BETWEEN THE SUSCEPTIBLE-NESS BETWEEN DIFFERENT SUBJECTS AND DIFFERENT SUBJECTIVITIES because of my RF background.
rojo, you do realize the world record is close to sub 4 EACH 1600m? jakob would’ve finished in 3.53
It's 4:01 per mile and change!!!!! Joshua Cheptegei's WR 12:35!!!!!
Yes agree, Jakob, clean from drugs would still have wipe out a doping Grant's 4min flat final mile with at least a 3:54 and faster. If Jakob really went evenly with 1 mile to go, he could easily do a 60, 59, 58, 53 for a 3:50 closing mile. It can be done....
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Huge Fisher fan and rooting for him in Paris. But there's a decent gap right now between him and the top 5k guys in the world (Yomif, Hagos, Kiplimo). Off those splits, they would have closed that race 4 seconds faster on the last lap. Grant may just be in such good shape he fully trained though this and doesn't have the pop he would fresh, but he'll need to be better than this to medal.
I think you forgot one other top guy.............the double world champion.