Jakob reportedly now consider himself better in the 10000m than in the 5000m and the other shorter distances.
Source?
Yeah I don’t believe that. He’s indicated in some interviews that he thinks the 3k/2 mile is a sweet spot for him and that the 5,000 is also great for given his training. But have not heard that about the 10K.
The sauce is real. I bet if it were an African running these times the majority of the hobby joggers on here would claim it's peds or something else ridiculous..... because that's what y'all always do. He looked too fresh afterwards. Why don't y'all accuse him of cheating? Is it not obvious?
1. El Guerrouj: 11:06.22 2. Komen: 11:07.05 3. Jakob: 11:07.36
Jakob on 24 hours rest while the other two are lifetime bests
Many people forget that Komen’s 7:20 WR was run 24 hours after he won the Berlin ISTAF 5000 in 13:02. Tired legs from the longer race the day before plus travel from Berlin to Rieti makes this double more impressive than Jacob’s IMO.
Jakob on 24 hours rest while the other two are lifetime bests
Many people forget that Komen’s 7:20 WR was run 24 hours after he won the Berlin ISTAF 5000 in 13:02. Tired legs from the longer race the day before plus travel from Berlin to Rieti makes this double more impressive than Jacob’s IMO.
Well I think part of the reason “many people forget it” is because it is NOT true. Are you lying or so simply mistaken? It is true that Daniel ran 13:02 on 8/30 and 7:20 on 9/1 but did you forget that 8/31 happened? That would have been a rest day so your little anecdote is not correct.
High schoolers and even college runners can run back-to-back PR/ high-level performances at championship meets for different events. What makes you think pro runners can't do 95% of their best a day after a hard effort? This is like when German Fernandez ran 4:00 and 8:34, people thought he was doping (in high school!)
That’s what I don’t understand about what is being claimed. If I run an all out mile on one day, it has zero effect on any running I do 24 hours later. Why are these world class guys any different? I’m seriously asking.
High schoolers and even college runners can run back-to-back PR/ high-level performances at championship meets for different events. What makes you think pro runners can't do 95% of their best a day after a hard effort? This is like when German Fernandez ran 4:00 and 8:34, people thought he was doping (in high school!)
That’s what I don’t understand about what is being claimed. If I run an all out mile on one day, it has zero effect on any running I do 24 hours later. Why are these world class guys any different? I’m seriously asking.
When you say an all out mile the day before has “zero effect” on your running the next day you are simply ignorant. You wouldn’t know what the impact is and so you really should stay quiet about this. Maybe you have no idea what an all out mile really is because you cannot push yourself very hard, but more likely you are slightly impacted the next day but because you are generally clueless you make assumptions about zero impact because your mind is not capable of acknowledging what you don’t know.
Good for Jakob. However, his time needs historical context. From 2015-2019, the average 100th world time in the 3000 was around 7:57. For 2022, 2023, it is 7:50.
There has been a shift in race times and they are not directly comparable to times run before 2020.
For the 1500m, 100th best was about 3:38 2015-19, for 22/23 it is 3:36.
For the 5000m, 100th best was about 13:26 2015-19, for 22/23 it is 13:19.
For the 10000m, 100th best was about 28:10 2015-19, for 22/23 it is 27:55.
The sauce is real. I bet if it were an African running these times the majority of the hobby joggers on here would claim it's peds or something else ridiculous..... because that's what y'all always do. He looked too fresh afterwards. Why don't y'all accuse him of cheating? Is it not obvious?
+1
this should be forwarded to the cope of Ovett and his list of clean records.
That’s what I don’t understand about what is being claimed. If I run an all out mile on one day, it has zero effect on any running I do 24 hours later. Why are these world class guys any different? I’m seriously asking.
When you say an all out mile the day before has “zero effect” on your running the next day you are simply ignorant. You wouldn’t know what the impact is and so you really should stay quiet about this. Maybe you have no idea what an all out mile really is because you cannot push yourself very hard, but more likely you are slightly impacted the next day but because you are generally clueless you make assumptions about zero impact because your mind is not capable of acknowledging what you don’t know.
That's not much of answer. That last run-on sentence is just a semi-literate insult mostly. Go work on your writing skills, then come back and try to answer the question.
Anyone else? I have run an all out mile many times. I'd most of us here have. It's been many years, but I don't recall ever never noticing an affect the next day. It's one mile. How wrecked can you be the next day, no matter how much you pushed it? Do these guys running world record times have a different kind of recovery?
When you say an all out mile the day before has “zero effect” on your running the next day you are simply ignorant. You wouldn’t know what the impact is and so you really should stay quiet about this. Maybe you have no idea what an all out mile really is because you cannot push yourself very hard, but more likely you are slightly impacted the next day but because you are generally clueless you make assumptions about zero impact because your mind is not capable of acknowledging what you don’t know.
That's not much of answer. That last run-on sentence is just a semi-literate insult mostly. Go work on your writing skills, then come back and try to answer the question.
Anyone else? I have run an all out mile many times. I'd most of us here have. It's been many years, but I don't recall ever never noticing an affect the next day. It's one mile. How wrecked can you be the next day, no matter how much you pushed it? Do these guys running world record times have a different kind of recovery?
You are ignorant. By definition you have no clue. You are advertising that you are not very bright.
29:31, 3:51, 8:12, 8:06 in less than a week. All faster than the previous world records.
(Not that actually ran the full distance for any of those races)
Come on.
This is the 1993 equivalent of a man running a 10,000 in 26:20, a 1500m in 3:27, a 3000m in 7:23 and then a 3000m in 7:10, all in one week. (all would be world records in 1993)
Jakob ran 3:43 and 7:23. Maybe he runs 7:20 if he hadn’t raced the mile.
You run 4:40 in a 1600m. The next day your 3200m is 10:04. Nobody really cares that maybe it would have been a 10:00 if you hadn’t run the 1600m the day before. You don’t feel much different and so you ignorantly tell us it made “zero” impact. That is the answer.
Good for Jakob. However, his time needs historical context. From 2015-2019, the average 100th world time in the 3000 was around 7:57. For 2022, 2023, it is 7:50.
There has been a shift in race times and they are not directly comparable to times run before 2020.
For the 1500m, 100th best was about 3:38 2015-19, for 22/23 it is 3:36.
For the 5000m, 100th best was about 13:26 2015-19, for 22/23 it is 13:19.
For the 10000m, 100th best was about 28:10 2015-19, for 22/23 it is 27:55.
That’s why the 3000 was more about winning than the time.
ON DIRT .. 2x WR; first man sub-29:00 .. 2 days apart. 1954. - 69 years ago.
Nice find! And considering he probably had to take a rickety old train from Paris to Brussels, using his kit bag as a pillow, makes this more impressive than Jacob’s double also!