It was a different time. These events happened back in the 00s. Condemning Brand for his actions back then is like when people in the 90s condemned swingers like Austin Powers for how they acted towards women. The current generation sees any nonconsenual sex act as “rape,” but it just wasn’t that way 20 years ago.
I would say you are off by a couple of decades. The concept of date rape eas well established in by the 80s, at least in most of western Europe and the US.
Referring to Russell Brand as Right Wing is so sad and strange. Is Bill Maher and Joe Rogan Right Wing?
Bill Maher isn’t a right winger, but:
If it looks like a right winger and quacks like a right winger, then…
Rogan is definitely a right winger but not the far right. Maher is more of a mishmash of political views some of which are pretty right wing, some are left And a bunch are libertarian. And with like 30 years of him talking, some of his views have moved from liberal to conservative and vice versa despite not changing.
What I find interesting about this is that hes been quite open about his past, and even made jokes and people have laughed at all of this.
So why pretend to be hypocrites and suddenly turn him into a monster, if he always was one??
This is from the original article from The Times UK:
Throughout his career, Brand’s material has acknowledged his sex addiction and he has often publicly joked about his predatory behaviour and sex life. There were rumours of more sinister behaviour — said to be discussed as an “open secret” by senior TV and radio executives, and among female comedians who warned each other of his behaviour — but the women involved previously felt unable to speak out.
I would say you are off by a couple of decades. The concept of date rape eas well established in by the 80s, at least in most of western Europe and the US.
In most places a 31 year old having sex with a 17 year old hasn't been acceptable in like a 100 years....
What isn't clear is what is trigger point for this happening now versus 1-10 years ago..
It was a different time. These events happened back in the 00s. Condemning Brand for his actions back then is like when people in the 90s condemned swingers like Austin Powers for how they acted towards women. The current generation sees any nonconsenual sex act as “rape,” but it just wasn’t that way 20 years ago.
So back in the 00's NO meant YES, but now it definitely means NO?
Many of you are conflating woke with left wing. The woke lack critical think skills. Their brains are empty vessels just waiting for the latest nonsense to be poured in and become opinion. Maher asks tough questions before adopting the latest work trope.
It was a different time. These events happened back in the 00s. Condemning Brand for his actions back then is like when people in the 90s condemned swingers like Austin Powers for how they acted towards women. The current generation sees any nonconsenual sex act as “rape,” but it just wasn’t that way 20 years ago.
You must be really young. In 2006, when these allegations start, I was a fully functioning adult with a cellphone. It doesn't seem that long ago to me and I have the same idea of rape as nonconsensual as I do now, and as I did in the 90s and 80s. Maybe husbands didn't think of it as rape in the 40s because they thought they owned their wives but I bet their nonconsenting wives did.
Read the investigation. It may be he said, she said now but there are text messages and records of him apologizing. I think these women were resigned to staying quiet about it but they looked up one day and he's an effing WELLNESS guru, this total psycho.
Masterson is now serving 30 years based on simply testimony of the women. No evidence whatsoever.
Most people convicted of crimes are done so simply by testimony and no physical evidence.
Most prosecution cases don't go to trial.
In U.S. county, city & state courts, (90 to 95)% of cases are handled by Plea Bargain which are on one level or another, an Admission of Guilt.
Why do attorneys encourage over 90% of their clients to settle, Plea Bargain? Due to C.S.I.-type forensic evidence.
If you really are an attorney, you know, the cases that go to trial are weak cases with zero or near zero forensic evidence. Since most criminal defendants have overly worked public defenders as attorney, you may be right but you told only part of the story.
“Brand’s popularity has waned since the mid-2000s, when he often joked about his sex life, but his audience has grown as an online influencer. Further in Brand’s video addressing the recent allegations, he says the reports feel like “a serious and concerted agenda” to undermine his career. Starting in the 2010s, Brand became a right-wing news commentator on YouTube, where he discussed conspiracy theories and anti-vaccine views. He moved his remarks to Rumble, a video platform popular with far-right influencers, after Brand said YouTube removed one of his videos for coronavirus misinformation.”
I don’t follow Brand at all but going conservative was definitely a smart move for him in hindsight. Conservatives get away with way more rape apologism, saying outrageous things about rape, and quite possibly rape itself, and at the very least, they don’t get canceled by their own base because they must “believe women” indiscriminately unlike the silly liberals who chow down their own. Conservatives apply more street sense, and it also helps that a greater fraction of their base is uneducated, simple thinking, and more sexist against women.
In most places a 31 year old having sex with a 17 year old hasn't been acceptable in like a 100 years....
What isn't clear is what is trigger point for this happening now versus 1-10 years ago..
In the 1990s, when he was the star of a top-rated TV show and probably the most famous comedian in the U.S., Jerry Seinfeld dated a girl who was 17 when they met (he was 38) and turned 18 a few weeks later. They were together for about four years. The age difference made the relationship controversial, but I don't think it was universally considered unacceptable.
People think he moved to that direction on purpose to fend off these coming accusations as attacks from "the left" or "mainstream media." Cause this joint investigation has been nosying around for at least a year and a half.
The comic, who has been accused of rape, sexual assault and emotional abuse and given support by Elon Musk and Andrew Tate, hints that a darker agenda is at play
It was a different time. These events happened back in the 00s. Condemning Brand for his actions back then is like when people in the 90s condemned swingers like Austin Powers for how they acted towards women. The current generation sees any nonconsenual sex act as “rape,” but it just wasn’t that way 20 years ago.
You must be really young. In 2006, when these allegations start, I was a fully functioning adult with a cellphone. It doesn't seem that long ago to me and I have the same idea of rape as nonconsensual as I do now, and as I did in the 90s and 80s. Maybe husbands didn't think of it as rape in the 40s because they thought they owned their wives but I bet their nonconsenting wives did.
Read the investigation. It may be he said, she said now but there are text messages and records of him apologizing. I think these women were resigned to staying quiet about it but they looked up one day and he's an effing WELLNESS guru, this total psycho.
It's Britain. Not only do they promote the careers of men like this - there's been several high profile ones working for the BBC and not just Jimmy Saville - but its really hard to get a rape conviction in the UK. They tear apart the personal life of the woman even when there's strong text message evidence and there's hardly any rape convictions. It's something like 3% of all rapes reported end up in a successful prosecution. They don't even use the special protections for victims of tape and sa to give evidence in a lot of cases because it results in bias against them.
You actually get told about societal bias against women in law school here. People have a tendency to disbelieve women on all matters and a bias towards believing untruthful men. Its like the witchunts of old- women are seen as scheming, duplicitous abd unreliable.
The fact that the metropoitan police have put out an appeal for any more victims of this man to contact them is interesting though. Although the Met have had quite a few rapists in their ranks recently themselves.
If it looks like a right winger and quacks like a right winger, then…
Rogan is definitely a right winger but not the far right. Maher is more of a mishmash of political views some of which are pretty right wing, some are left And a bunch are libertarian. And with like 30 years of him talking, some of his views have moved from liberal to conservative and vice versa despite not changing.
lol Rogan the classic right winger who is also a Bernie Bro, refused to have Trump on his podcast, is pro equality/gay marriage, etc., pro drug legalisation, pro UBI, pro free healthcare, etc...
There is a difference between having someone right wing on his show as a guest and actually like, you know being right wing yourself. Some people like to hear a range of perspectives. Do people that call him right wing actually ever listen to anything he says or do they just repeat something they heard somewhere once..?
You must be really young. In 2006, when these allegations start, I was a fully functioning adult with a cellphone. It doesn't seem that long ago to me and I have the same idea of rape as nonconsensual as I do now, and as I did in the 90s and 80s. Maybe husbands didn't think of it as rape in the 40s because they thought they owned their wives but I bet their nonconsenting wives did.
Read the investigation. It may be he said, she said now but there are text messages and records of him apologizing. I think these women were resigned to staying quiet about it but they looked up one day and he's an effing WELLNESS guru, this total psycho.
It's Britain. Not only do they promote the careers of men like this - there's been several high profile ones working for the BBC and not just Jimmy Saville - but its really hard to get a rape conviction in the UK. They tear apart the personal life of the woman even when there's strong text message evidence and there's hardly any rape convictions. It's something like 3% of all rapes reported end up in a successful prosecution. They don't even use the special protections for victims of tape and sa to give evidence in a lot of cases because it results in bias against them.
You actually get told about societal bias against women in law school here. People have a tendency to disbelieve women on all matters and a bias towards believing untruthful men. Its like the witchunts of old- women are seen as scheming, duplicitous abd unreliable.
The fact that the metropoitan police have put out an appeal for any more victims of this man to contact them is interesting though. Although the Met have had quite a few rapists in their ranks recently themselves.
and this is different from the rest of the world how?
at least we recognise it here, which is a first step that many countries havent, including the us.