Jakob's "confidence" (some might say arrogance) is back: "This record wasn't a difficult one for me."

Who knows what age he started doping, but Armstrong was national champion in Triathlon by the time he was 18 and was world cycling champion when he was only 21. He wasn’t “nobody”.

I love watching this guy run and I love his post race comments, because you know they are going to trigger a certain "type" on these message boards. The dude is just a beast and must see TV. It's really cool getting to witness this type of greatness. Speaking of greatness....the kid Laros is coming and he put the world on blast!!!

the 2K record is "better" than the mile and 1500k records in

IAAF Scoring Tables of Athletics 2017.doc

jacob should go for the mile WR, it's easier by 1.5 seconds ish.

Plus his exposure in drug testing is triple anyone else's, because if either brother gets popped, it is all over for them all, much like the Robertson twins.

Bro Science Question:

Is it necessary (for a man) to feel that secure in his own ability for him to break a record?

Noah Lyles is the only male sprinter close to a WR right now and he has it. Warholm has it. Duplantis and Crouser has it too, albeit more held-back in front of cameras.

Back when Steve Cram was the dominant 1500/Miler in the World for a couple of seasons he could say things like (from memory) "When I step out on a track and look at the field I know there's me and eleven losers."

Is Jakob going to become the 1500 WR holder who never won it at the WC and the 5k world champ who never broke the WR? He has the 2k and 2-mile WRs now, so he just needs to win these events at the WC and he'll be GOAT.

Steve Cram never said things like that, which was why he was loved by his competitors. Maybe you're thinking of Ovett.

Or is it a once in a generation phenom that was raised with two world class brothers, an obsessive father, and trained like a pro since he was 10?

Lions do lion things.

T&F has covered up some positive p.e.d. results. Is J Ingebrigtsen making himself, Too Big to Fail with chickensh!t world bests, 2000m & 2mi?

Exactly. You nailed it:

she is the only runner i have ever followed that is doping and that knows that everyone knows she is doping. it’s so obvious, she doesn’t even try to hide it, but she knows she needs to get caught before anyone can actually prove it. it’s like she is playing cat and mouse with the track and field community.

No, 18 meters is about 3 seconds at that pace, so about 7:21 at best. Good, but not that good.

Watch the agonized hate spew on the hate-vote machine! Am I wrong? No. The haters know they are wrong, and in agony about it. I merely bring the bad news. I burst the bubble.

Just face it, people. Jakob can't break 3:26. He can't break 7:20. He can't break 12:35. Ever. Or he would be trying to right now. Even he knows it's out of reach.

I agree with you about 20% of the time BUT you nailed it. Jakob admitted it too, that he was going for the low hanging fruit. I have to say the 7:20 was possibly in danger EXCEPT Jakob peaked this year so he won’t ever get it now, and as you say, he cannot get the other records.

there is always next year, except next year is... oops, an olympic year again, and that means peaking for rounds.

I'm not saying Jakob isn't a great runner! Easily the best of his time. I just don't get carried away like some types.

Fair enough. But Ovett wasn't as dominant for as long. It might have been said after Cram's elite career was over, when talking to Scandinavian television about how he prepared and felt during those years when he was on top.

And media wasn't everywhere back then as it is now - lots of statements by lots of athletes never made it on air for various reasons like to protect an image a certain channel already has invested in help building, or simply no room to follow up on something in coming days anyway. For one/two Björn Borg and Ingemar Stenmark was pretty similar, but Swedish media pretty much built them into a good guy / bad guy format.

He's clearly undiagnosed autistic and just doesn't have the same filter that most people have. He just tells it as he sees it. It was easy for him, he just followed the pacemakers for most of if as he said. It would be the same for all of us (compared to say am unpaved champs race) it's just it's all relative - his best pace happens to be WR pace. I would rather somebody said what they were thinking than minced around with their words.

I wouldn't say autistic - but let's be honest here, no world beater is ever totally neurotypical. NO ONE!