Why when cheat-flats are probably chopping 5 or 6 minutes off your 2:55 marathon time. 2:49 sounds a lot better.
I'm actually curious, does anyone train in minimal shoes and then race in super shoes? I feel like you could gather all the leg/foot strength from the training and then really put the shoes to work.
I did some digging and came across the asics hyper racer. It appears to be a brand new traditional japanese flat with a 20 mm drop. Right now its only sold on the japanese/asian market but some sizes are available on ebay.
In Japan there is the descente genten rc and other descente shoes under the gente line that appear to be traditional racing flats. They don't seem to be sold by any seller who will ship to the US, but maybe you can find something if you can read japanese.
Fila has the KR 6 which is sold on the Brazillian and South American markets and Austrlia.
Joma has the R5000 which is a fairly minimal flat - feels somewhere between the Japanese flats and the streak lt.
New Balance hanzo is still sold in Japan. The latest model is the 4. It has a 16 mm stack height.
You might find some more things on the world athletics shoe list, but most are very hard to find info on other than if they are legal for distances 800 and above or not.
I actually think I got a half size too big. I have a left foot that is like a quarter size smaller than my right foot. The shoes feel extra roomy in that foot to the point its a hindrance. They feel ok running in, like a cross between the adizero hagio and the mizuno wave cruise is how I'd describe them. You can def race over 10k in the shoe, but I still prefer the streak lt, though the genten-rc will have better grip on wet roads (the lt 3 and 4 have horrible grip on anything wet).
I think I'm done ordering shoes from Japan. Its too big of a hasslewith about a 50% error rate on sizing for me.
Saving money so I've been using the Aatreyu Base Model for a lot of my track repeats and tempo/uptempo runs (not long runs though). I feel like their quality is meh; but they do what I need them to do. And I feel like I get more push out of Super Shoes come race time.
Typically lacing up the Vaporfly 2's since I stocked up on a few pairs before they went away
As the Saucony A9 is no longer being made and remaining inventory on it starts to wane, I went on the minimalist racing flat search. I do this every few years when they discontinue the brand/iteration I have been using. I want low stack height (max 20mm heel) , light (max 6.5 ounces), and no carbon plate (purist here). This is my daily running shoe. It was NB 1600v2/v3 for about 6 years, then Saucony A8/A9 for the last 6 or 7 years.
It now looks like we’re nearing the end of the road.
Sad days folks. Not much being made anymore that fits the bill. Anyone else sad?
There are some clouds passing over shortly that we can yell at. Anyone want to join me?
I highly recommend the Xero shoe line for real racing flats. I use them as my full time training shoes. i put nearly a thousand miles on my last pair of Xero Prio before they fell apart. super lightweight, extremely low stack height.
As the Saucony A9 is no longer being made and remaining inventory on it starts to wane, I went on the minimalist racing flat search. I do this every few years when they discontinue the brand/iteration I have been using. I want low stack height (max 20mm heel) , light (max 6.5 ounces), and no carbon plate (purist here). This is my daily running shoe. It was NB 1600v2/v3 for about 6 years, then Saucony A8/A9 for the last 6 or 7 years.
It now looks like we’re nearing the end of the road.
Sad days folks. Not much being made anymore that fits the bill. Anyone else sad?
There are some clouds passing over shortly that we can yell at. Anyone want to join me?
I highly recommend the Xero shoe line for real racing flats. I use them as my full time training shoes. i put nearly a thousand miles on my last pair of Xero Prio before they fell apart. super lightweight, extremely low stack height.
Ya, I think like 9-14 mm stack height. Can you run off road in those?
I highly recommend the Xero shoe line for real racing flats. I use them as my full time training shoes. i put nearly a thousand miles on my last pair of Xero Prio before they fell apart. super lightweight, extremely low stack height.
Ya, I think like 9-14 mm stack height. Can you run off road in those?
I do, and have for years, but it took a little getting used to on super rocky trails. Your feet toughen up. I also have Xero's trail shoes (Mesa II) which are much thicker/tougher on the bottom and would make you pretty invincible over the rocks, but they're a little too heavy/bulky for me now after years of the Prio. Still, Mesa II's are still about the weight of an old racing flat.