The problem with this is that there are two girls programs that have completely and utterly dominated the rest of the United States for the past 20 years and they both happen to be in New York. No NE girls team would ever get a shot.
It is interesting though that FM and Saratoga girls are almost always top 3 in the nation but the boys aren’t. I know FM boys won in the 2010’s but overall they don’t dominate like the girls do.
I remember seeing an interview of Doug Soles talking about how New York girl teams get the opportunity to fully train with their 8th graders and how it gives them an edge as girls are more likely to be able to contribute to their team scores at a young age.
In FM's case, the severe diet restrictions the coach imposes seem to positively impact girls more than boys, in terms of performance. Saratoga may well do the same thing (their boys have also won NXN / NTN once, FWIW).
Found a post in this thread: “One of the issues here is that many 7th or 8th grade girls that are fast tend to bonk once they hit puberty, and often cannot run as fast once they hit highschool, soph or junior years.”
Great job by Grace Ping qualifying for Nike Cross Nationals. As a 7th grader, that is truly impressive. I do wonder, since the NXN participation rules say that an athlete must be in good standing with their high school team a...
Cross country is very different than 1600. Some of those guys don’t run the 3200, which makes it hard to tell how xc will go. If some non-NY team falters at NXN, then a top-20 NXN finish will be possible.
Well it was actually clear that Corning was going to be really good before the 2022 season started. They dominated the 2021 state meet with only 2 seniors, and they got second to Burnt Hills at NXR 2021 without their #1 nonsenior Bange, and their 2-6 that raced were nonseniors.
Will Saratoga even be #1 in the state? They lost 3 seniors including NXN qualifier Talarico, and St Anthony’s was better than them last year and made NXN and return 3 of their top 5, in addition to Wigutow (9:29), Melloy (9:59 but ran a TT 9:39 last fall according to another thread), and Kennedy (10:05 3200 indoor)