It will take a sub 4:10 in the 15 and sub 5:20 in the 5 to win. If Tuohy tries to PB in the 15 she will risk the 5 and there are plenty nipping at her heels. With only roughly 90 minutes of recovery she can’t give the 5 the attention more likely necessary to assure a win. She needs an extraordinary workout regimen to prepare properly…maybe her friends in Boulder or Flagstaff can help out by hosting her at altitude with a rigorous pro prep program. I doubt this is happening but I wish this would be possible. This effort deserves the best preparation.
Maybe some prep with members of the NC State men’s team? Obviously not at their pace but as fast as what the race is projected to be. After watching the video of the quarterfinal, one thing that concerns me is what happened at the start of the race. How did she get blocked like that at the start?
Need to prepare for that possibility and if there are multiple runners from another team - Oregon, Washington, for example, there may be team tactics in play to box her in. Have a plan and also be mentally ready for what could be a very physical race.
I had made that suggestion here, stating that others who where above the level of their competition had successfully run with the men. I believe KT had a shoutout for Gavin for allowing her to join his training. Must have helped (or rubbed off) since they both won. Bravo!
Maybe some prep with members of the NC State men’s team? Obviously not at their pace but as fast as what the race is projected to be. After watching the video of the quarterfinal, one thing that concerns me is what happened at the start of the race. How did she get blocked like that at the start?
Need to prepare for that possibility and if there are multiple runners from another team - Oregon, Washington, for example, there may be team tactics in play to box her in. Have a plan and also be mentally ready for what could be a very physical race.
I had made that suggestion here, stating that others who were above the level of their competition had successfully run with the men. I believe KT had a shoutout for Gavin for allowing her to join his training. Must have helped (or rubbed off) since they both won. Bravo!
Nice! Glad to hear he advanced as well. I remember some discussion recently that Alicia Monson does some training with the men in her pro group and she mentioned how it had helped her.
I had made that suggestion here, stating that others who were above the level of their competition had successfully run with the men. I believe KT had a shoutout for Gavin for allowing her to join his training. Must have helped (or rubbed off) since they both won. Bravo!
Nice! Glad to hear he advanced as well. I remember some discussion recently that Alicia Monson does some training with the men in her pro group and she mentioned how it had helped her.
That’s right…this is why I made the suggestion, bringing up what I had read about Jenny Simpson and the YouTube I saw with Monson being paced in training with a male member of her On team. We sometimes need to look at unorthodox solutions in preparation of extraordinary efforts. Since I teach graduate classes in innovation I used my own advice in the business community to relate to this challenge.
It makes no sense to do the double at all unless she leaves everything on the track in the 1500m. She won't win otherwise. The 5k needs to be the 2nd priority.
Simone Plourde ran 4:08 PR at west region and then came back and ran 15:35 looking completely fine, and she is doing the same double (So are Ramsden and Maatoug). Granted Plourde is a little older and goes to school at altitude. But, I think Tuohy will be fine.
This is the way - focus on winning the 1500 and whatever happens in the 5k, happens.
This double is an ambitious goal and I think no one has done it when both races were on the same day? Different combination than this double but I remember Allie Ostrander attempting a 3k Steeple/5k double at NCAAs a few years ago. She won the 3k Steeple and finished 4th in the 5k. I believe she only had an hour between the two events.
This will be interesting but I don’t think Coach Henes would let Tuohy attempt it unless based on her training, time trials or whatever she had a realistic chance at succeeding.
Allie O actually finished 16th in that 5000 a little over 1 hour after winning the steeple. Steelman also ran both and got 8th in 5000 after 3rd in the steeple. Also note how slow the 5000 was though it was at 7:25 pm and it will be at 10 pm this year.
This is the way - focus on winning the 1500 and whatever happens in the 5k, happens.
This double is an ambitious goal and I think no one has done it when both races were on the same day? Different combination than this double but I remember Allie Ostrander attempting a 3k Steeple/5k double at NCAAs a few years ago. She won the 3k Steeple and finished 4th in the 5k. I believe she only had an hour between the two events.
This will be interesting but I don’t think Coach Henes would let Tuohy attempt it unless based on her training, time trials or whatever she had a realistic chance at succeeding.
Allie O actually finished 16th in that 5000 a little over 1 hour after winning the steeple. Steelman also ran both and got 8th in 5000 after 3rd in the steeple. Also note how slow the 5000 was though it was at 7:25 pm and it will be at 10 pm this year.
So the NCAA meet that I was referencing was actually in 2017. Allie was a redshirt freshman then and it was the first of her three consecutive steeple wins. I did not realize she tried the double again after that. I think after her last NCAA in 2019 she decide to forgo her last year of eligibility and went pro.
Allie O actually finished 16th in that 5000 a little over 1 hour after winning the steeple. Steelman also ran both and got 8th in 5000 after 3rd in the steeple. Also note how slow the 5000 was though it was at 7:25 pm and it will be at 10 pm this year.
So the NCAA meet that I was referencing was actually in 2017. Allie was a redshirt freshman then and it was the first of her three consecutive steeple wins. I did not realize she tried the double again after that. I think after her last NCAA in 2019 she decide to forgo her last year of eligibility and went pro.
The 95 F in Austin in the steeple in 2019 no doubt did not help her effort....I think it was still 90 during 5000
So the NCAA meet that I was referencing was actually in 2017. Allie was a redshirt freshman then and it was the first of her three consecutive steeple wins. I did not realize she tried the double again after that. I think after her last NCAA in 2019 she decide to forgo her last year of eligibility and went pro.
The 95 F in Austin in the steeple in 2019 no doubt did not help her effort....I think it was still 90 during 5000
Yeah, I think 2017 was in Eugene and probably a lot cooler. Allie’s post race interview in 2019 was so funny and I remember some idiot announcer saying she probably still played with Barbie dolls. Ooof!