This thread was originally titled, "Incredible development in the $612,000 Transcon Goodge run, currently ongoing" but the new title is more descriptive. The description of the run is here.
After having done quite a bit more research on this, I'm fairly confident this statement is BS and the data in-fact cannot be obtained.
Unless you are willing to publicly share said data, this is going to have to be filed under a massive "Trust me bro", and all your previous "analysis"null-and-void!
I gave you something that is very simple to do and you Cockerell shills couldn't even download the Strava data? I think that speaks volumes about how you and Cockerell should all be quiet because you all clearly lack any skills needed for data analysis. How do you think I made all those graphs on pages 12 and 22 of this thread, bro?
It's pretty easy to make a graph of anything you like, if you're not also showing the raw data BRO
So do you admit you just falsely accused me of accusing you of necrophilia like you have falsely accused Goodge of fraud?
Conveniently ignored my comments about obtaining the data from the strava files...
So DO YOU admit you lied about this? Or can you at least provide us with one days worth to prove you are in fact able to analyse it?
You missed my derisive comment replying to your comment on the previous page. How do you think I made all those graphs of Goodge's Strava data back on pages 12 and 22 of this thread, bro?
I gave you something that is very simple to do and you Cockerell shills couldn't even download the Strava data? I think that speaks volumes about how you and Cockerell should all be quiet because you all clearly lack any skills needed for data analysis. How do you think I made all those graphs on pages 12 and 22 of this thread, bro?
It's pretty easy to make a graph of anything you like, if you're not also showing the raw data BRO
Why don't you just download the full Strava data of Goodge, bro? It's so easy that any junior high schooler could do it.
It's pretty easy to make a graph of anything you like, if you're not also showing the raw data BRO
Why don't you just download the full Strava data of Goodge, bro? It's so easy that any junior high schooler could do it.
I've downloaded the GPX file which is all that's available. It doesn't contain any time stamps, HR or cadence data. Simply GPS point so I could copy his route if I so wished... nothing else!
After having done quite a bit more research on this, I'm fairly confident this statement is BS and the data in-fact cannot be obtained.
Unless you are willing to publicly share said data, this is going to have to be filed under a massive "Trust me bro", and all your previous "analysis"null-and-void!
I gave you something that is very simple to do and you Cockerell shills couldn't even download the Strava data? I think that speaks volumes about how you and Cockerell should all be quiet because you all clearly lack any skills needed for data analysis. How do you think I made all those graphs on pages 12 and 22 of this thread, bro?
This is all deflection. You're trying to make it out to be something far more complex than it is, because you have no answer to our question. If someone rides the subway at the New York marathon and returns an HR of 65 for a 2:30 when they were expected a 3:30 we are going to ask many questions, but the first is, "what's with the 65?"
And your reply? 'You guys are mad idiots who don't understand data analysis'. That is the depths to which you've plumbed. Just. Answer. The. Question:
Why do RB and WG file HR data of 80-120, when the rest of the human race files 120-175?
Clue - calling us idiots who don't understand how to analyse data won't wash, not today, not ever.
You missed my derisive comment replying to your comment on the previous page. How do you think I made all those graphs of Goodge's Strava data back on pages 12 and 22 of this thread, bro?
Are our forum settings different? I see no posts from you on those pages.
You missed my derisive comment replying to your comment on the previous page. How do you think I made all those graphs of Goodge's Strava data back on pages 12 and 22 of this thread, bro?
Are our forum settings different? I see no posts from you on those pages.
Direct post links to those posts where I made the graphs of Goodge's data after downloading it in full from Strava:
Hi all,here's an update on another thread about the British runner William Goodge doing Transcon at the moment and some worrying irregularities.Namely that he runs at 150-170bpm in the first two days of his multidayers, colla...
Hi all,here's an update on another thread about the British runner William Goodge doing Transcon at the moment and some worrying irregularities.Namely that he runs at 150-170bpm in the first two days of his multidayers, colla...
And your reply? 'You guys are mad idiots who don't understand data analysis'.......
Clue - calling us idiots who don't understand how to analyse data won't wash, not today, not ever.
I didn't use that terminology or those words but that is an accurate summary of this thread. You simply don't have the intelligence to understand data analysis at all.
Why don't you just download the full Strava data of Goodge, bro? It's so easy that any junior high schooler could do it.
I've downloaded the GPX file which is all that's available. It doesn't contain any time stamps, HR or cadence data. Simply GPS point so I could copy his route if I so wished... nothing else!
I will share one of the files if you get Cockerell to restore that video he deleted from the Jogle Facebook page of him saying he believes Goodge after spending 7 minutes alone with him talking about their dead mothers.
I've downloaded the GPX file which is all that's available. It doesn't contain any time stamps, HR or cadence data. Simply GPS point so I could copy his route if I so wished... nothing else!
I will share one of the files if you get Cockerell to restore that video he deleted from the Jogle Facebook page of him saying he believes Goodge after spending 7 minutes alone with him talking about their dead mothers.
It's clear at this point you're just a troll, and your so called "analysis" was manufactured with no raw data shared
I've downloaded the GPX file which is all that's available. It doesn't contain any time stamps, HR or cadence data. Simply GPS point so I could copy his route if I so wished... nothing else!
I will share one of the files if you get Cockerell to restore that video he deleted from the Jogle Facebook page of him saying he believes Goodge after spending 7 minutes alone with him talking about their dead mothers.
Total garbage and trash talk of the highest order. Just reviewed the video, absolutely nothing of the sort, nowhere close. And noted you refuse to answer the question about HR due to our lack of intelligence. Goodbye.
I will share one of the files if you get Cockerell to restore that video he deleted from the Jogle Facebook page of him saying he believes Goodge after spending 7 minutes alone with him talking about their dead mothers.
Total garbage and trash talk of the highest order. Just reviewed the video, absolutely nothing of the sort, nowhere close. And noted you refuse to answer the question about HR due to our lack of intelligence. Goodbye.
If you said "nothing of the sort" in that video of you in America, you will have no problem restoring the video to the Jogle Facebook page in return for one of the full data files from Strava of Goodge, now, will you?
You've got nothing. We all know it. Your files from weeks ago talked about cadence and stride length, way off the beaten path. This is an issue about HR: why he and RB don't register a credible pulse. And you never address that question.
Anyway, all I said in that video and a statement on the evening of Day 1 in OK is that I was willing to walk away from all this and accept that WG had no explanation for his "mad data", on ONE condition: run this clean from now on, do it properly, and we could all go our separate ways and never speak of this again. He acquiesced. Days 1, 2 and 3 were all perfect data, day 4 a little funky for some reason, and day 5 perfect again.
We had not had the intel that RB did his Transcon in the same way at this stage, otherwise I would have been rather less charitable.
After I left the HR promptly fell off a cliff, and it's all been pandemonium for the last 3 weeks. Well, latest projections have it as the 4th or 5th quickest second half in history.
I handed them an olive branch, it was rejected. And now it's all this.
You've got nothing. We all know it. Your files from weeks ago talked about cadence and stride length, way off the beaten path. This is an issue about HR: why he and RB don't register a credible pulse. And you never address that question.
Anyway, all I said in that video and a statement on the evening of Day 1 in OK is that I was willing to walk away from all this and accept that WG had no explanation for his "mad data", on ONE condition: run this clean from now on, do it properly, and we could all go our separate ways and never speak of this again. He acquiesced. Days 1, 2 and 3 were all perfect data, day 4 a little funky for some reason, and day 5 perfect again.
We had not had the intel that RB did his Transcon in the same way at this stage, otherwise I would have been rather less charitable.
If that is all you said in the video, then what is the problem with you restoring it onto the Jogle Facebook page where you deleted it in return for one the full data files of Goodge complete with all the raw heart rate data at every timestamp? Wouldn't you like to see the full heart rate data instead of the mangled and inaccurate version that Strava puts into prettified graphs?
You have just confirmed you are on the team. You only want that video so you can edit it to the final cut of the the WG charade. Then you will say there were doubters, who flew over from the UK, and you proved them wrong.
This is also why you are asking for those who have run with WG to send video/pics etc. Trying to verify it.
Perhaps if he wore a tracker we wouldn't be 100+ pages.
Unfortunately you just dismiss the most important part, while spending time on things like stride length which isn't directly measured. Once you decide there isn't a bike (no cad=0) HR vs GAP over the course of the "dirty" days is what matters.
Unfortunately you just dismiss the most important part, while spending time on things like stride length which isn't directly measured. Once you decide there isn't a bike (no cad=0) HR vs GAP over the course of the "dirty" days is what matters.
Newsflash for you, GAP isn't a directly measured value either. GAP is an artificial metric. If you want to obsess over the inaccurate wristwatch heart rate sensor data, why don't you just download all the data from Goodge's Strava like I have? Oh, wait, it's because you don't have the skills or knowledge to be talking about my work.
You've got nothing. We all know it. Your files from weeks ago talked about cadence and stride length, way off the beaten path. This is an issue about HR: why he and RB don't register a credible pulse. And you never address that question.
Anyway, all I said in that video and a statement on the evening of Day 1 in OK is that I was willing to walk away from all this and accept that WG had no explanation for his "mad data", on ONE condition: run this clean from now on, do it properly, and we could all go our separate ways and never speak of this again. He acquiesced. Days 1, 2 and 3 were all perfect data, day 4 a little funky for some reason, and day 5 perfect again.
We had not had the intel that RB did his Transcon in the same way at this stage, otherwise I would have been rather less charitable.
If that is all you said in the video, then what is the problem with you restoring it onto the Jogle Facebook page where you deleted it in return for one the full data files of Goodge complete with all the raw heart rate data at every timestamp? Wouldn't you like to see the full heart rate data instead of the mangled and inaccurate version that Strava puts into prettified graphs?
That sounds very much like someone worried they're finally going to have to face some scrutiny when this is all over. Struggling to get all your ducks in a row?
Yep and for my part, I am refusing to engage with Sneakers any more until he comes out from behind his mask. He is claiming made up nonsense about having HR data that none of us have access to - we shouldn't need to. We have 14,000k of filth, it's enough.
Everyone else files clean, why can't they?
Anyway, many believe Sneakers is RB, or a direct mouthpiece, but what we don't know is if he is an experienced ultrarunner, respected in the sport, knows what he's talking about, or just mouthing off.
His insults are graphic, insidious, quite scary at times and very cowardly as he hides behind anonymity. All I've done is forcefully question WG and RBs terrible data, anomalies and inconsistencies over these past 50 months - that's a long time for this to have been going on. WG and I actually got on fine when we ran together, and I gave him a lovely character portrait on that video, calling him enormously charming.
So, Sneakers, in the words of Martin Riggs in Lethal Weapon: "you know so much about me, who the hell are you?"