HS coach is having us do (mid-track season):
Mon: 3x600m @800 pace
Tuesday: easy run/recovery
Wednesday: 10x400m @mile
Thursday: easy run/recovery
Fri: 25 min tempo
Is this too much hard speed work for mid-season track training?
HS coach is having us do (mid-track season):
Mon: 3x600m @800 pace
Tuesday: easy run/recovery
Wednesday: 10x400m @mile
Thursday: easy run/recovery
Fri: 25 min tempo
Is this too much hard speed work for mid-season track training?
Yeah, it's probably a little much. Choose one of the Monday/Wednesday workouts, and move it to Tuesday. Then, add some 150m-200m sprints after the 25 minute tempo, and add a saturday or sunday long run.
Side note: what is it with 3x600m @ 800m pace??? I saw that in another thread, too! That workout is pretty much impossible!
3x600m @800 is a death march, if i was to do something like that, i would take 2-3 easy days before doing anything else hard, much less 2 more workouts that week.
2 workouts & a long run with easy days inbetween works best in my opinion. Does your team have a history of burning out before state?
Mon and Wed are the types of workouts I would include every 2 weeks at this point. Both in one week is very difficult. 3x600 @ 800 is an extremely difficult session, bordering on impossible without a LOT of rest. If I were designing the training I'd choose either the 10x400 or the 3x600 and put 2 easy days after and then do the tempo at a nice controlled effort.
That's a ROUGH week.
I'm imagining the 3x6 to have between 8-12 minutes rest. It is a very tough workout, but not impossible. Should be a date pace, not goal pace.
If I were your coach and wanted all these energy systems hit, I'd change Wednesday to easy, move the tempo to Thursday, but do it as cruise intervals for 18-20 minutes, so it could be very controlled, and ended early if feedback warranted it. I'd then move the 400s to Friday, but cut them down to 8. Again, date pace for the first 6, goal pace for the last 2.
I'd imagine the weekend days would not have a race and would be easy as hell on Saturday with nothing more than a brisk walk or pool work if possible on Sunday.
As you might expect with that sort of training, our team barely gets anyone to state
Yeah, the 3x600m rest is around 10 min, and this would be on a non-race week.
Race weeks aren't much better, with something like:
Mon: 4xmile w/6 min (90% effort)
Tuesday: LR (7-9 miles)
Wednesday: 4x(2x400) w/90 sec and 5 min (bit over mile pace)
Thurs/Fri: Strides/easy runs
Sat: Race
Yeah, this is some super hard stuff. All crammed together. I gave a way it COULD be done, but even that, mannnn, that's some tough stuff.
Change the 600 to 400 with 3 min. rest.
Move Wed. to Thursday and add a Mile Tempo opener @ 5K pace; instead of 10 400s, go with 3 sets of 3 x 300 ... jog a lap between sets and close with another MILE TEMPO. Take out the Friday's workout. Add a long run 25% of week's total on Sat.
Agree -- where did 3x600 @ 800 pace come from. Nobody should be able to do that.
I can see 3 workouts/week for low mileage 800 runners but not like this. Would keep an 800 specific workout & combine (or alternate weekly) the strength/interval work.
3x600m at 800 pace is excessive. The fact that this is happening at the beginning of the week is probably what is making your body and mind doubt the training throughout the rest of it, everything else looks relatively ok.
Something like 5-6x300m or 8x200m @800m would be more appropriate, then switch the tempo and the 400s to let your anaerobic system get a bit of a break.
Edit: now that I think about it, 10x400m @ mile might be a LITTLE tough for highschoolers, I think 6-8 reps, knowing that highschoolers tend to run reps a little too fast would be a better idea. Better to be slightly undertrained than overtrained.
Just this one session, if actually done at 800m pace, is too much for the week. Bad idea. And, for most runners, it is impossible to accomplish all 3 reps at true 800m pace.
Most runners doing 3 x 600, even with long rest, would run 800m at a faster pace than the 3 x 600 if they would avoid doing 3 x 600.
The point of a workout is to develop (or, late season, to sharpen) the athlete, not to burn them out with too much.
Have you considered adding a weekly 5x1000 slightly slower than 800 pace?
glad people are giving you advice, but i assume unless you're not meeting with the team. that the coach won't change the training based on your thread. so in that case, sleep a lot, run easy AF on rest days, even alone if you have to. and just generally take care of yourself and maybe sandbag some of the tougher workouts if you need to lol.
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