So Sarah should ban herself since she’s been at an Ethiopean training camp?
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say it ain't so Sara, say it ain't so wrote:
Also, she will be 40 on April 15th, just two days before the Boston Marathon.
The women's masters record is 2:27:58 from 2002.
I thought the same thing. Unfortunately, Boston is not record eligible.
I didn't word it right, my fault. I just meant that getting the Boston Master's record is in the bag for her, unless 2018 happens again.
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It’s the progression for me. How come all came in her late 30s?
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say it ain't so Sara, say it ain't so wrote:
UpperState wrote:
I thought the same thing. Unfortunately, Boston is not record eligible.
I didn't word it right, my fault. I just meant that getting the Boston Master's record is in the bag for her, unless 2018 happens again.
I agree, she has a fantastic chance at the Masters Course record.
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Its there wrote:
It’s the progression for me. How come all came in her late 30s?
Some of it, but certainly not all of it can be explained by the shoes. However, she's had quite a unique career going from a borderline, struggling pro runner for many years to American record holder. I sure hope she's clean, but there are valid reasons for being at least a little suspicious. Having a husband who is obviously on TRT doesn't help either.
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I guess14910 wrote:
Not sure if anyone's been following along on twitter, but Sara Hall hasn't had a good week on the platform. Post Zane Robertson doping case she:
1. Posted a tweet stating that they need to criminalize doping in Kenya. After she received healthy backlash (just Kenya??? Zane is from NZ and made a choice!!) she deleted the tweet.
2. Then she wrote about how we need to criminalize doping everywhere.
3. Then she posted and deleted another tweet where she wrote that in her 25 years, she hasn't seen any doping and rest assured that most people are "doing it the right way". She also doubled down on her Kenya bashing, saying it happens more in Iten. For this she received a sound thrashing. Points were made like: Doping is rampant, what are you talking about. Why are you just blaming Iten, have you heard of Nike? and then finally:
Your progression is weird Sara. You've been running a lot your whole life. How is it that you are still PR'ing into your late 30s?
And now in this article, she stated that she is in Ethiopia for a final tune up in training. Ethiopia. Why Ethiopia? Why during March when her kids have school and whatnot? Why when she already lives at altitude in the US? What do we make of her comments and her current location now?
I'm not going to come out and say what I want to say, but I'll say this. There are a lot of complaining about the letsrun doping polls and what not. People say it's mean and cruel and whatever. But what are we supposed to do when athletes do stuff like this? Believe them blindly and be quiet? What's actually going on here? what compelled her to place so much blame on Kenya?
I hope Sara is clean. But I'm not going to sit around and pretend I don't have two eyes that see. I remember an interview with Molly Seidel (who is one of the few athletes I would be willing to bet is clean). All starry eyed in the interview, Seidel marveled over the intensity of training Hall could do and said something to the effect "I'm 28 now--I wonder what 10 more solid years of training will get me, and seeing Sara, it makes me excited to see how good I'll be in 10 years!" in the past, it would be common knowledge that 38 is well past your prime. I hope Molly is not being fooled.
What's it like going through life being an ignorant dik?
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There are no circumstances that would make me believe that Sara would ever cross the line into real doping. She is a very religious and moral person. They have taken poor children into their home.
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say it ain\'t so Sara, say it ain\'t so wrote:
Also, she will be 40 on April 15th, just two days before the Boston Marathon.
The women's masters record is 2:27:58 from 2002.
Wouldn’t Edna Kiplagat‘s time of 2:25:09 from Boston 2021 technically be the master’s record given that she was 41 at the time?
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I guess14910 wrote:
Not sure if anyone's been following along on twitter, but Sara Hall hasn't had a good week on the platform. Post Zane Robertson doping case she:
1. Posted a tweet stating that they need to criminalize doping in Kenya. After she received healthy backlash (just Kenya??? Zane is from NZ and made a choice!!) she deleted the tweet.
2. Then she wrote about how we need to criminalize doping everywhere.
3. Then she posted and deleted another tweet where she wrote that in her 25 years, she hasn't seen any doping and rest assured that most people are "doing it the right way". She also doubled down on her Kenya bashing, saying it happens more in Iten. For this she received a sound thrashing. Points were made like: Doping is rampant, what are you talking about. Why are you just blaming Iten, have you heard of Nike? and then finally:
Your progression is weird Sara. You've been running a lot your whole life. How is it that you are still PR'ing into your late 30s?
And now in this article, she stated that she is in Ethiopia for a final tune up in training. Ethiopia. Why Ethiopia? Why during March when her kids have school and whatnot? Why when she already lives at altitude in the US? What do we make of her comments and her current location now?
I'm not going to come out and say what I want to say, but I'll say this. There are a lot of complaining about the letsrun doping polls and what not. People say it's mean and cruel and whatever. But what are we supposed to do when athletes do stuff like this? Believe them blindly and be quiet? What's actually going on here? what compelled her to place so much blame on Kenya?
I hope Sara is clean. But I'm not going to sit around and pretend I don't have two eyes that see. I remember an interview with Molly Seidel (who is one of the few athletes I would be willing to bet is clean). All starry eyed in the interview, Seidel marveled over the intensity of training Hall could do and said something to the effect "I'm 28 now--I wonder what 10 more solid years of training will get me, and seeing Sara, it makes me excited to see how good I'll be in 10 years!" in the past, it would be common knowledge that 38 is well past your prime. I hope Molly is not being fooled.
Her posts are valid and she's clean.
Who is this guy?
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say it ain't so Sara, say it ain't so wrote:
Also, she will be 40 on April 15th, just two days before the Boston Marathon.
The women's masters record is 2:27:58 from 2002.
So your saying if she starts 2 days late, there's a chance for the record?
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long sleeve shirt wrote:
Its there wrote:
It’s the progression for me. How come all came in her late 30s?
Some of it, but certainly not all of it can be explained by the shoes. However, she's had quite a unique career going from a borderline, struggling pro runner for many years to American record holder. I sure hope she's clean, but there are valid reasons for being at least a little suspicious. Having a husband who is obviously on TRT doesn't help either.
And her husband is sus too.
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She is right. But of course she coward down to the woke mob.
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Record verification wrote:
say it ain\'t so Sara, say it ain\'t so wrote:
Also, she will be 40 on April 15th, just two days before the Boston Marathon.
The women's masters record is 2:27:58 from 2002.
Wouldn’t Edna Kiplagat‘s time of 2:25:09 from Boston 2021 technically be the master’s record given that she was 41 at the time?
No, because she ran 2:21:40 in 2022, placing 4th at age 42.
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Its there wrote:
It’s the progression for me. How come all came in her late 30s?
She's always been talented (winning Footlocker) but she was sort of good at a lot of distances but never the best or top 3 to make an Olympic team, like she was always a few years behind in terms of when she really should have switched to a longer distance.
Finally caught up with the marathon and I think Ryan retiring made a big difference. She became the focal point of running for the both of them and she wasn't the support team anymore. And then the shoes. She doesn't have great form. Like she sticks her upper body out, so maybe the shoes help her more. I think she's peaked though.210 -
She will lose to Des and Emma at Boston. Her training is coming around but not all the way back.
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That's all you have? Sad.
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Her progression is nowhere near as suspect as her husband's progression from tiny to absolutely massive.
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Better but not great wrote:
She will lose to Des and Emma at Boston. Her training is coming around but not all the way back.
Des? That's a stretch IMHO.
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teff wrote:
Its there wrote:
It’s the progression for me. How come all came in her late 30s?
She's always been talented (winning Footlocker) but she was sort of good at a lot of distances but never the best or top 3 to make an Olympic team, like she was always a few years behind in terms of when she really should have switched to a longer distance.
Finally caught up with the marathon and I think Ryan retiring made a big difference. She became the focal point of running for the both of them and she wasn't the support team anymore. And then the shoes. She doesn't have great form. Like she sticks her upper body out, so maybe the shoes help her more. I think she's peaked though.
I don't think the progression is super suspect. She always had pretty good speed, running a 4:31 mile in her mid twenties, and also running solid 5K and 10K times that were comparatively better than her mile (she was better as distance increased). Finally, endurance is a quality that can keep improving for a long time, even in veteran runners, and even into mid-late 30s.
So I don't think her performances in her late 30s are impossible. I sure hope not!
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