A navicular stress fracture should heal with rest. I know someone that twisted an ankle when hiking and ended up with a really bad sprain that an X-ray showed her to also have a small fracture. A lot d bad sprains also result in small fractures. The orthopedic doc she saw recommended physical therapy and that was very helpful. He did not want her in a boot. I’m sure that the OSU staff is on top of it. Rest will be the best thing at this point and even if she felt that she could be back at the end of the season, it would be unwise.
I’ve always liked Cook. She seems like a good kid with a good personality and she always lights up the place with her million dollar smile. I hope she keeps her spirits up and comes back stronger for XC.
Isn’t a navicular stressy pretty bad? Like surgery, pins, 1+ yr of running?
It can mean surgery. Doesn’t always though.
I believe the 1yr reference you hear means that after surgery it can take a full year to get back to where you were. Not a full year off running completely.
If she doesn’t get surgery now, then it turns out she needs it later, it can add up to a long time off racing.
I hope she’s ok, but this is a scary injury depending on the exact type for an elite runner because of the unique features of the navicular bone’s location and vascular supply. There are higher rates of non union, recurrence and pain even after operative repair. This was the injury that plagued Lauren Fleshman during her career.
Dave DeBuschere along with Walt Frazier, Earl Monroe, Senator Bill Bradley and Captain Willis Reed rip were the core of the famous early 70's NBA champion Knicks.
Dave DeBusschere--spelling counts. And please don't say Senator Bill Bradley: that was post-basketball. But when he was active, he was "Dollar Bill". Thanks, though, for bringing back some memories.
Don't forget although Natalie had an epic Senior season, she lost about 50% of HS due to injuries. Her dad and coach worked out a great system to finish off high school with a high volume of cross training and less running miles. It makes me wonder how much her OSU training differed. She obviously had a great Fall XC with the training, but what happened now?
If you want an insight into Flower Mounds heavy cross training, you can view the workout logs Humphries twins have posted.
I’ve always liked Cook. She seems like a good kid with a good personality and she always lights up the place with her million dollar smile. I hope she keeps her spirits up and comes back stronger for XC.
I’ve always liked Cook. She seems like a good kid with a good personality and she always lights up the place with her million dollar smile. I hope she keeps her spirits up and comes back stronger for XC.
I have no issue with her at all. She's a talented runner and I wish her the best.
I have an issue with guys who get emotionally invested in the entirely invented personalities that they project onto young women who they don't know AT ALL. It's creepy.
I have no issue with her at all. She's a talented runner and I wish her the best.
I have an issue with guys who get emotionally invested in the entirely invented personalities that they project onto young women who they don't know AT ALL. It's creepy.
I have no issue with her at all. She's a talented runner and I wish her the best.
I have an issue with guys who get emotionally invested in the entirely invented personalities that they project onto young women who they don't know AT ALL. It's creepy.
So if I ran 10 miles per week spread over 3 sessions then I would get a navicular stress fracture?
Shi/t happens. I've had ONE stress fracture in my life, running mostly on grass and trails.*
Most of my training after that was on roads and sidewalks -- 100 to 170 miles per week -- not even a sore pinky.
Injuries happen. Trying to attribute the cause is foolish.
* by the way, I put ice on it and asked the coach to put m back in the game. It took a while but it worked.
Lucky for you to run 100-170 miles a week on the roads and sidewalks without getting hurt. You're clearly the exception to the proven scientific rule that excessive running (impact) on hard surfaces substantially increases the risk of stress fractures. You're also the exception to the proven widespread rule that running on softer surfaces (trails/grass) drastically reduces stress fractures. Also, you're the FIRST runner to claim that "icing" a stress fracture healed it...WOW! And, finally... this quote is a gem "Injuries happen. Trying to attribute the cause is foolish". Hmmm... If I was injured I would like to know what the cause was (shoes, diet, training surfaces, etc...) so I can adjust accordingly and "get back in the game". With that archaic thought process you must have left a lot on the table when you retired.
Shi/t happens. I've had ONE stress fracture in my life, running mostly on grass and trails.*
Most of my training after that was on roads and sidewalks -- 100 to 170 miles per week -- not even a sore pinky.
Injuries happen. Trying to attribute the cause is foolish.
* by the way, I put ice on it and asked the coach to put m back in the game. It took a while but it worked.
Lucky for you to run 100-170 miles a week on the roads and sidewalks without getting hurt. You're clearly the exception to the proven scientific rule that excessive running (impact) on hard surfaces substantially increases the risk of stress fractures. You're also the exception to the proven widespread rule that running on softer surfaces (trails/grass) drastically reduces stress fractures. Also, you're the FIRST runner to claim that "icing" a stress fracture healed it...WOW! And, finally... this quote is a gem "Injuries happen. Trying to attribute the cause is foolish". Hmmm... If I was injured I would like to know what the cause was (shoes, diet, training surfaces, etc...) so I can adjust accordingly and "get back in the game". With that archaic thought process you must have left a lot on the table when you retired.
I dont disagree, but to be accuate there is no proof of either of your claims at all.
Aouita 84 wroteAlso, you're the FIRST runner to claim that "icing" a stress fracture healed it...WOW!
Thats a joke, son. And you're not laughing. You're built too low. The fast ones go over your head. -- Foghorn Leghorn
"Put ice on it and get back in the game" is a reference to the grunt sports attitude back in the day. (specifically football in the 50s to 70s) Think Dick Butkis I did, however, gradually work myself back in the game quite successfully.
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Brilliant comment. Obviously no runners at other schools ever get injured.
I remember when we had five ladies all in boots or crutches, I also remember my teammates who had stress fractures almost yearly… Yes injuries are common at the collegiate level, but the system is not kind to those who cannot handle it.
It is unfortunate but injuries do happen, especially for freshmen. Very rarely do all three seasons come together even for the most talented.
When I coached a rule of thumb was. Year 1 redshirt 2 seasons, compete in 1. Year 2 compete in 2 seasons, redshirt what you ran the year before. By year 3, rock and roll from August till June.
Also a few posts mentioned her form, form doesn’t change overnight. You run the way you run due to weaknesses, imbalances, flexibility, etc. All of those improved with more time running, and getting stronger. Dave Smith knows what the hell he is doing, she will get a whole lot stronger and her form will clean itself up over time.