if i am casting aspirations.,what are they? what proof of wrongdoing is in her book? Demeaning someones reputation with no proof is slander. putting words in a book is proof of absolutely nothing unless it can be verified. what happened to innocent until proven guilty? first thing she should do is put any proceeds into a fund for drug victims or some such. That would provide credibility. He has possibly been a victim for at least 5 years on this board and there is nothing he can do to stop it. It is like a slander board. This is not how a civil society should function.
My understanding of civil suits is the opposite of what you say. The burden would be on Salazar to prove the accusations were lies.
There’s no such thing as innocence and guilt in lawsuits.
That's ridiculous, if that were the case, I could print in a newspaper that you molested 3 children back in 2010 and if you wanted to sue me, you would have to prove that you didn't. That would be an impossible standard and that's why the burden lays directly on the person making the allegation. If Goucher were sued, she would have to prove, by a preponderance of the evidence that Salazar inserted his finger in her. I doubt she could prove that given the timeline and her prior statements.
My understanding of civil suits is the opposite of what you say. The burden would be on Salazar to prove the accusations were lies.
There’s no such thing as innocence and guilt in lawsuits.
That's ridiculous, if that were the case, I could print in a newspaper that you molested 3 children back in 2010 and if you wanted to sue me, you would have to prove that you didn't. That would be an impossible standard and that's why the burden lays directly on the person making the allegation. If Goucher were sued, she would have to prove, by a preponderance of the evidence that Salazar inserted his finger in her. I doubt she could prove that given the timeline and her prior statements.
My understanding of civil suits is the opposite of what you say. The burden would be on Salazar to prove the accusations were lies.
There’s no such thing as innocence and guilt in lawsuits.
That is unequivocally false. It's on the person making the accusations.
Kara timed these "accusations" to her benefit dropping the F-bomb after taking 4th at the trials in 2016. Does anyone think if she won the trials she'd having given the same interview?
No way, this was a planned interview if things didn't go right. I don't believe Alberto put his finger where she claims but you all can believe what you want. Where I live it's a crime to not report a crime, believe it or not.
You can't wait when it's convenient for you to make such accusations, but Kara is an attention seeker...I saw her at the 2020 trials, she loves attention!
Sorry, not buying her version at all
Well I agree with you about Kara’s nefarious motivations but:
Alberto as the plaintiff in a defamation case would have to prove:
1) a false assertion purporting to be fact
2) publication or communication (easily proven)
3) fault amounting to at least negligence but if Alberto is considered a public figure then he would have to show that Kara knowingly told a falsehood or showed a reckless disregard for the truth
He done, bro. A “media tour” would just be a nail in the coffin. He’s a creepy drunken fool, a dying relic of an old boys club. And I don’t even think he could manage to grow mushrooms without the aid of Nike money.
Might have more punch if he and John Babington (long time sexual molester now banned by Safe Sport) went out on the road together -- two Massachusetts guys who love smashing through boundaries and ruining the lives of women runners
My understanding of civil suits is the opposite of what you say. The burden would be on Salazar to prove the accusations were lies.
There’s no such thing as innocence and guilt in lawsuits.
That's ridiculous, if that were the case, I could print in a newspaper that you molested 3 children back in 2010 and if you wanted to sue me, you would have to prove that you didn't. That would be an impossible standard and that's why the burden lays directly on the person making the allegation. If Goucher were sued, she would have to prove, by a preponderance of the evidence that Salazar inserted his finger in her. I doubt she could prove that given the timeline and her prior statements.
I don’t know about your extreme example, but if you do some research, you’ll find the burden of proof generally falls to the filer of the suit.
Obviously, Goucher can’t prove what Salazar did with his finger, but under your analysis, it would be possible for Goucher to lose a judgment even after telling the truth.
This is total BS. Alberto is guilty for sexual assault, period. read Kara's book, look at the evidence. This just seems like a lot of troll talk. So sad Letrun.com just lets this fester on and on.
This is total BS. Alberto is guilty for sexual assault, period. read Kara's book, look at the evidence. This just seems like a lot of troll talk. So sad Letrun.com just lets this fester on and on.
Your posting history shows who you are. I didn’t realize that Kara could write a book and it could convict one of sexual assault. This is a new world we are living in. Be very careful as someone may write a book about you and then the sheep, such as yourself, can assume your guilt.
This is total BS. Alberto is guilty for sexual assault, period. read Kara's book, look at the evidence. This just seems like a lot of troll talk. So sad Letrun.com just lets this fester on and on.
Yes, your post and point have no merit, none whatsoever.
I don't have any bias towards or against Kara Goucher, I have my own life and have never seen her instagram. Unfortunately, you cannot take someone's account of something as gospel because there are written words saying so. Lance Armstrong ripped many, many people, with threats, including a young totally innocent female masseuse calling her a whore---until the walls came crumbling down. That was someone's daughter and that sick arrogant human being called her a whore because she told the truth.
Kara could easily have exaggerated what happened many years ago due to rage and anger over not getting where she so verbally claimed she would be running.
She wrote that email to Alberto. Why didn't she bring up the alleged act then? Why is there no mention of it in her email?
Why did someone who loves attention and talking to anyone who will listen to her not bring it up years earlier? A defense attorney for Nike would dismantle her claims with ease.
As I mentioned before, Kara broke 2:25, once. She broke 2:25 by 8 seconds almost 12 years ago and then said she'd break 2:20 and then go after Paula's record. Injuries, age, training, actual ability, etc...who cares why, she didn't do it.
Now comes the blame Alberto talk show circus.
On this thread or another thread within the week, I said who thinks that Kara would have given that same awful complaining interview after taking 4th in 2016 versus if she had made the team or won the race?
She wouldn't have, she was mad and was making excuses. When Desi went, she couldn't go with her that day, accept it and move on, don't do an interview and use obscene language because you got beat. She didn't bring up Alberto at the press conference before the race, why not?
I don't know exactly what happened as neither do any of you, but I don't believe Kara Goucher because she put it in a book. Many people have been accused of such things and were found to be innocent later. Alberto may be innocent of her claims, so don't be so quick to judge.
If Salazar may be innocent then how to account for the SafeSport investigation and decision? Each of the claimants and the respondent got to read the transcripts of each other's lengthy investigative interviews once the investigation was complete and the decision was handed down. Why don't we hear Salazar defending himself by quoting from his own transcript? We don't hear him doing that because SS found by the preponderance of evidence that his account didn't square with Goucher's.
If Salazar may be innocent then how to account for the SafeSport investigation and decision? Each of the claimants and the respondent got to read the transcripts of each other's lengthy investigative interviews once the investigation was complete and the decision was handed down. Why don't we hear Salazar defending himself by quoting from his own transcript? We don't hear him doing that because SS found by the preponderance of evidence that his account didn't square with Goucher's.
Defending yourself by quoting from your own transcript doesn’t seem all that compelling.
Johnny Depp showed us all that wrongly accused people fight to clear their name. Silence is an admission. Since truth is the perfect defense to defamation all he needs to do is state the truth.
The truth is that he did what she claimed. If he didn't he would have sued. He hasn't. He won't. His defenders here are clueless.
Nothing at all happened. It keeps Salazar out of prison or from a felony conviction but it doesn't apply here. People can lose their jobs for reasons other than criminal behavior. Imagine a doctor who has a patient claiming he assaulted her. She can go to her state's licensing board and file a complaint. The board will investigate the complaint and if it deems the complaint credible can discipline that doctor (suspension or loss of license either temporarily or permanently being common reactions) who is still innocent of any criminal complaint. This is the same thing that's happened to Salazar.
This is total BS. Alberto is guilty for sexual assault, period. read Kara's book, look at the evidence. This just seems like a lot of troll talk. So sad Letrun.com just lets this fester on and on.
Is this the same trustworthy Kara Goucher that colluded with Doc Brown and was the one that told Salazar to use him and yet still says she is clean?