How does this translate to a standard distance? Where I'm from the 1600 doesn't exist. Never run one, never seen one. What would an equivalent 1500, 5k, 10k or some other time be?
Had the privilege of having a few of their runners on official visits this year. They train WAY, WAY differently than under Doug Soles.
Mileage: Moderate, about 55. If they do double, its at their own discretion and a small 3 miler before school.
Workouts: Lots of tempos and very short reps at quick paces. No massive long race pace reps right now.
Soles built this thing and worked these kids hard. He established the dynasty. I would say their training--with their attracted talent--is much more sustainable now though. There were doubts surrounding her when she first started. But she has proved herself already.
How does this translate to a standard distance? Where I'm from the 1600 doesn't exist. Never run one, never seen one. What would an equivalent 1500, 5k, 10k or some other time be?
I wouldn't be surprised if we see 5-6 Great Oak runners dip under 9:15 at Azusa with at least half of them being returners. Will be great to see how they stack up in the longer distances!
I wouldn't be surprised if we see 5-6 Great Oak runners dip under 9:15 at Azusa with at least half of them being returners. Will be great to see how they stack up in the longer distances!
Honestly I'm more excited about the possibility of some of these guys in the 4x800, considering it's debut this year at the state level. Lets look at the rundown:
Great Oak, who could have 4-5 guys capable of running 1:51-1:53 by the end of the season if GO peaking history is anything to go off of.
Newbury park: No Young twins, but still a great squad, and Aaron did CIF last year. Who cares if their first 3 guys run 1:57 when a 1:46 runner is anchoring.
Long Beach Wilson: Overall great squad. Filled with phenomenal long sprinters
Long Beach Poly: Xai Ricks. 33.23 300m and 1:16.13 600m at the winter championships, where he was followed by 2 teammates in the 600m running 1:20 and 1:21. Need I say more?
Menlo: Don't sleep on them. Already state leaders having run 7:58 in January.
Between all of these teams and more than will emerge between now and May, Great Oak could pull off something historic in the 4x800, and this incredible depth at quite an early time in the season is remarkable.
How does this translate to a standard distance? Where I'm from the 1600 doesn't exist. Never run one, never seen one. What would an equivalent 1500, 5k, 10k or some other time be?
Don't act stup!d son.
Whenever a poster points out that a distance is a non-standard event for which records are not kept, there is backlash. 'You know what's going on here' type comments which imply the poster is very familiar with - and spent 3-6 years training for and racing - the 1600 and 3200. I feel the need to come in here and defend the 'what is a 1600?' kind of posters.
These distances really are foreign to many people. I personally have never seen either 1600 or 3200 ever written about outside of MB threads. I have been into running for quite a long time now and have never seen either one offered or advertised at a meet. Records don't seem to exist for either. Hey, I'm not saying any of you haven't ever run one; to the contrary you have. Most of you currently focus on (or once did) on these distances.
But for those who see the numbers 1600 and 3200 written and think "What? No one runs these. They are not events." I have to say I understand this point of view. It really does seem strange to many track fans. Yet, every time a post to that effect goes up, all of you ridicule the poster. How can we all be aware that you are really into the 1600 and 3200? I'm not telling any of you not to run them, just asking for a break for those of us who really have a hard time imagining any event director would put one of them on the docket.
Speaking for myself - but probably for any of a number of posters on these type of threads - I have literally never heard of anyone running these 'events' outside of this site right here. From my view, and presumaly that of many others, the 1600 and 3200 simply don't exist in the real world. You all say they do - and that they are very popular - but please understand that a lot of people haven't run, or even heard of, either.
Whenever a poster points out that a distance is a non-standard event for which records are not kept, there is backlash. 'You know what's going on here' type comments which imply the poster is very familiar with - and spent 3-6 years training for and racing - the 1600 and 3200. I feel the need to come in here and defend the 'what is a 1600?' kind of posters.
These distances really are foreign to many people. I personally have never seen either 1600 or 3200 ever written about outside of MB threads. I have been into running for quite a long time now and have never seen either one offered or advertised at a meet. Records don't seem to exist for either. Hey, I'm not saying any of you haven't ever run one; to the contrary you have. Most of you currently focus on (or once did) on these distances.
But for those who see the numbers 1600 and 3200 written and think "What? No one runs these. They are not events." I have to say I understand this point of view. It really does seem strange to many track fans. Yet, every time a post to that effect goes up, all of you ridicule the poster. How can we all be aware that you are really into the 1600 and 3200? I'm not telling any of you not to run them, just asking for a break for those of us who really have a hard time imagining any event director would put one of them on the docket.
Speaking for myself - but probably for any of a number of posters on these type of threads - I have literally never heard of anyone running these 'events' outside of this site right here. From my view, and presumaly that of many others, the 1600 and 3200 simply don't exist in the real world. You all say they do - and that they are very popular - but please understand that a lot of people haven't run, or even heard of, either.
Hey thanks for the non-derogatory post. A post a few days ago or sometime got some. Anyway, that was me you're responding to. And I am sincere when I say 1600 was unknown to me when I first tuned into LRC a few years ago. But as far as the DMR goes, 1200 is also not a stand-alone event that anybody runs as far as I'm aware. But then again, I was completely unaware of anyone running a 1600 as an entire race not long ago.
So, I guess although 1200s and 1600s could be run somewhere, sometime, my answer to 'what about DMR?' is that it contains 2 legs that aren't really events on their own. Again, I believe I can't be the only one who is unaware of these off-beat distances being run. I was just trying to defend the posters who see a 3200 thread and post: "3200? What?" They are not necessarily trying to mock or demean anybody but that is exactly the reaction their posts get.
He never made Great Oak’s top 7 for cross (they always have so much depth), but during senior track he ran a 9:22 3200 and 4:18 1600. So he really stepped up. He recently graduated though.