Hey look, the CA teachers are striking again for higher pay

I'm seeing typical starting pay is $51k and someone near retirement is $104k and the median of everyone is $79k. How is that not enough? If they want more money they can work a summer job for a 10-12 weeks and bump up those numbers another $8k-$10k. It's fairly easy to become a teacher, not at all the toughest major. A lot of people I went to school with who weren't very smart are now teachers. If you think that $80k isn't enough for California then how about you move somewhere else more affordable? Or maybe get rid of the pension so that they keep more of their paycheck while they're actually working? Part of why they don't think they're compensated much is because so much is taken away until they retire which is really just kicking the can down the road for the government of California. Get rid of pensions and pay the people while they're actually doing the work.

I wished you would have gone to a better school. There is so much wrong with your little rant.

F those Ca teachers.

The Lausd school district is much too large. It would be much better off if it broke down into smaller districts.

that is a different topic though.

Where? Teacher salaries in Indiana are 47k-90k.

You don't really know how teaching works do you? They were longer than 6 hour days lol. They do get extra time off in the summer but if you take out all the required summer meetings and classroom planning it's not as much as you think.

The amount of anti-union sentiment I see from Americans is really sad and can really only be explained as a mass psychosis resulting from generations of indoctrination with capitalist propaganda. If you are against workers, you are scum. Full stop.

I agree. I was a teacher, and many summers were spent devising new topics to teach, and then would have to create a lesson plan for that topic. Teachers are paid a salary. If they were paid by the hour, there would me many that would easily break 100k. Just ask the local city police. Many of those here in the northeast that are young and single, make well over $150k. How? Base salary + overtime. Go to Target or Staples or a construction site during your time off, and get 1 1/2 x pay/hr. When you are in your 20's, you can do that. Your pension is typically based on your two highest gross years.

Unions are scum, full stop.

The local Kroger employees around here are UCFW, don't make shzt and pay a large portion of their check to the Union. Imagine being unable to negotiate your own wage and being held hostage by these assholes.

Instead of making $16 negotiated on their own, they are making $10-12, and paying a portion of it back to the union.

We should pay teachers by the hour, just like these other jobs, for all hours worked (not just class hours). They get paid for each hour worked, and do no more work than what they are paid for. Then neither side can complain. All of a sudden the state would find ways to make teachers jobs more efficient (less hours worked) reducing stress, or teachers would start getting paid more as beauracrats and people like the OP start to realize exactly how much they work when everything is itemized. Additionally, hard working teachers are rewarded for the extra hours they work, and lazyier teachers get paid less. Win-win.

No, most industries attract good performers by paying them more for performing well. Teaching incentivizes the opposite of performing well - just hang on for a few years until you get tenure and you've got a pension for life.

This is true, we should pay good teachers more, but also make it easier to fire teachers for poor performance. This is how industry works as you mention. Good teachers leave because they aren't paid enough and bad teachers who can't make it in other jobs can stay and get a pension. The biggest losers are the good teachers.

Defining performance is the hard part. It would probably have to be based on classroom observations. Statistically, performance on standardized tests are so strongly affected by home environment, socio-economic factors, genetics etc, that even the best teachers have quite neglegible effects on test scores.

So glad I don't live in CA. Full stop.

Your husband is lying to you. There are other portals he’s getting into and it’s probably the new 21 yr old 2nd grade teacher across the hall.

I didn't think Marxists cared about money. Perhaps if they spent more time educating rather than indoctrinating teachers would be worth something.

Hey loser they are going on strike. Get a real job nerd.

You must be extremely poor to think 80k is enough. God bless you though. I guess it's true that ignorance is bliss.

Many Americans live in states where one of the unions is the largest political donor for state level politics and essentially chooses who gets elected (always in the union's interest). A good example is NJ, which is more or less owned by the teacher and police unions. These unions continuously push for more salary and higher pension payouts even though the state is drowning in $250 billion of debt mainly stemming from unfunded pension liability (something like $100-$180 billion of that figure), causing the state to jack up property taxes on all of its citizens. Meanwhile any attempt to take on the unions results in an army of news stories crying about people not valuing teachers or cops, the same people who have thousands taken from their paychecks every year so that a retired cop in his mid-40s who did nothing but routine traffic stops his entire career gets $80k a year until he dies.

Union dues are tiny, like 1 or 2 hour's wage a month. Why would Kroger pay $16 if their workers left the union? 😂😂