NC State got their graduate transfer … bring the hate haters!!!

In my experience those that bag on others for their academic prowess are academically deficient.

Methinks that just about every woman on NC State's team is a good bit brighter than you are. Those that went to Ivies, or other Tier 1 schools, are more than likely a lot brighter than you as well. Those students still need to qualify to the Ivies on the Ivy AI. That is not an easy task. They still need to be within a decile of the general student body.

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You just "bagged on my academic prowess". Interesting logic.

Sure sure ... she gets into an out of state graduate program with everything that entails with the grad school application/admissions process, and never attends a class. All so she can run an extra season of XC as the 6th, 7th, or 8th runner on the team. Makes complete sense.

Is this a serious question?

Let's start with almost every coach on both sides at the almighty and exalted Stanford. That program has had more distance talent dumped in their lap over the decades than any other in the country. How many national championships have they won with it?

And it's not just Stanford. The history of our sport at the collegiate level is littered with the names of hundreds of top recruits, on both sides but especially girls, who never develop let alone produce, in the top as well as the decent NCAA distance programs.

Further, it's not just an individual high school phenom thing. There are countless examples of programs with more than enough total talent that couldn't put it together for a title.

You can have whatever personal opinion you want about NC State and Coach Henes. But to say that any coach should win with those runners just shows how little you know about collegiate running.

Stanford is an elite academic institution. NAU and NC State are not. It is much easier to miss classes and get decent grades which takes the pressure off of the runners.

There is nothing required for an elite athlete to get into NC State with a coach's endorsement.

Touché but you're obviously insecure about something and it's telling that you feel the need to belittle others.

I have never insulted a poster which is against the rules. You insulted me though.

She gets a free Masters, where she most likely had to pay all / some at Princeton.

She can avoid applying to med school during Sr year to focus on Princeton academics. (Princeton one of a few schools that require all undergrads to complete an honors project/thesis)

Do you honestly believe that the academic rigors of NAU & NC State are analogous?

No. But NC State is in a different league than Stanford. If I tell you that Tuohy is going to race 2 women today who have a 6 minute PR and a 7 minute PR and I say she will smoke both of them, it isn't relevant to ask if the 2 are equivalent. She is going to smoke both of them.

NAU is nowhere near the level of NC State. NC State is #72 in the nation according to US News and World Report among all universities in the United States (among 1,500 schools ranked), while NAU is #317.

At number 72, NC State is in the top 5% of 1,500 universities ranked. I would call that elite.

No it isn't elite. You don't even realize that you are only considering the list of national universities.

You want to try to single out an try to trash NC State and put them on the level of NAU, which is preposterous. NC State is actually ranked higher (by US N&WR) than virtually every women's program at the top of the sport right now, including BYU (#89), Colorado (#97), Oregon (#105), Alabama (#137), Oklahoma State (#182), New Mexico (#212), and NAU (#317).

NC State is certainly elite academically, in comparison to schools like Oklahoma State, New Mexico, and NAU. There's more separation from those schools and NC State than there is from NC State to Standford.

The reality is that NC State is one of the very best choices academically for elite distance runners considering a program at the top of the sport.

Riiiight...I "don't even realize" that I'm talking about national universities when discussing the USN&WR rankings....when I explicitly stated in my initial post on the subject that the rankings were only in reference to universities in the United States. I absolutely knew that, and stated it explicity.

What the eff are you on? Are you able to even read my posts? Looks like that vaunted Stanford edumacation didn't teach reading comprehension.

This may be somewhat true, but what I have a problem with is why you assume the NC St ladies would not have been admitted to elite universities?

We know Mareno was admitted to Stanford.

Tuohy, Chmiel, Rauber and Starliper were all top 5% of class, 32+act / 1300+ sat, multiple AP classes and all ranked as the #1-3 national recruit in their class.

What program among Stanford, Notre Dame, Cal, UCLA, Princeton, Northwestern, Vanderbilt, UNC, Duke or Virginia would not have admitted them with coach's endorsement?

This group anyway, all chose to attend NC St for running / academic balance. There's nothing to stop them from later attending a 'prestigious' grad school, if that's important to them. A resume of high gpa, strong test scores, academic all-american and NCAA champ will open many doors. You'll be shocked to learn that top grad schools admit many NC st undergrads!

Apparently Tuohy was just named USTFCCCA National Scholar Athlete of the Year. Distance runners tend to be high achievers. It is a sport that requires disciplne.

On the actual thread topic, it is another quality addition to a very deep team.