Women's 2023 Indoors Discussion thread

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1 year ago 12/12/2022 3:44pm EST

I did not see a thread for this indoor season so starting one. Mods feel free to merge if this already exists.

I'll start with the mile. Strong competition this year with new faces and top returnees.

Lindsey Butler - last year's 800m indoor champ. But, she also split 4:29 in the DMR. She's been injured. Will she return to the 800m and compete against Willis or go for the mile? She is the only eligible athlete I can find with a recorded mile split or time under 4:30. Someone correct me on this if not accurate.

Galvydyte- Impressive 3rd in the 800m outdoors with 2:01, but just ran her first indoor mile at BU in 4:32. She is fast from 400m (56") to mile and ran impressive 74th at xc. Will she do the mile and/or dmr 800m at ncaa's? I wonder if she will continue to move up in distance as well. She is one to watch imo.

Tyynismaa - Split 4:31 in dmr previously. Possible 3k / dmr or mile at ncaas.

Roe - PB is 4:33, but she also split 4:31 in a DMR (I think)

Whittaker - my guess she will do 800m, maybe dmr at ncaas.

Asekol - Just ran 4:32, new PB

Barnett - 4:33 PB

Gregory - Last indoor season. What are her best chances for individual title? It might be the mile. 4:32 pb

Howell - 4:33 pb, solid xc season.

Tuohy - I don't think she will run the mile or DMR at NCAA's, but will probably run the mile in season. her 4:06 1500m converts to 4:25 mile.

Without Tuohy in the mile mix at ncaa championships, if I had to guess I would say Galvydyte for the win at NCAAs, or Butler if she is healthy.

1 year ago 12/12/2022 4:16pm EST

re: Blank231

Shannon Flockhart of Providence 4:10.8 for 1500 Outdoors. Katy-Ann McDonald of Georgetown 4:12.3 for 1500. Markezich of Note Dame if she puts her name in the mix. Perhaps Gibson of Washington.

1 year ago 12/13/2022 8:52am EST

re: Blank231

I can’t wait for tuohy to shut down all the d-bag trolls on this site for the 100th time!💪🤘

1 year ago 12/13/2022 10:01am EST

re: FastTuohy

FastTuohy wrote:
Shannon Flockhart of Providence 4:10.8 for 1500 Outdoors. Katy-Ann McDonald of Georgetown 4:12.3 for 1500. Markezich of Note Dame if she puts her name in the mix. Perhaps Gibson of Washington.

Good call. Flockhart was the top freshman at outdoors, didn't realize that.

1 year ago 12/13/2022 10:30am EST

re: Blank231

Tuohy's range is so crazy.

1 year ago 12/13/2022 10:43am EST

re: VaIbymania

No. Her times are all pretty much all inline. Look at the times of sub elites and they match up nicely with Tuohy.

1 year ago 12/13/2022 10:45am EST

re: gorun

So why is it okay for you to do it then? I haven't seen any Valby posts as aggressive as your post.

1 year ago 12/13/2022 11:01am EST

re: VaIbymania

VaIbymania wrote:
Tuohy's range is so crazy.

Yes. It's looking to me like Galvydyte does as well. She is a Lithuanian national jr record holder for the 400m hurdles, and her 800m & mile PBs are more impressive than her 400m flat time. 4:32 mile was surprising and I think she has potential to go sub 4:30 with her speed.

1 year ago 12/13/2022 7:52pm EST

re: Blank231

a 4:29 DMR is for 1600m, 9.3m short of a mile, and the runner does not have the reaction time (0.25+ seconds) and gets a rolling start. So, it is more like a 4:32 mile. Of course it depends on the nature of the race, a 4:29 solo is hard, but running in a string of other top runners gets you the pacing and racing and lack of running extra distance.

1 year ago 12/13/2022 8:04pm EST

re: FastTuohy

Does anyone know the health status of Lindsey Butler? Is she back to being 100%?

1 year ago 12/13/2022 11:24pm EST

re: Blank231

The Stride Report claims that Billah Jepkirui has run 4:11 for 1500m, but I can't find confirmation for that time.

1 year ago 12/13/2022 11:55pm EST

re: unconfirmed

unconfirmed wrote:
The Stride Report claims that Billah Jepkirui has run 4:11 for 1500m, but I can't find confirmation for that time.

She was great in XC. OK state is going to have a solid DMR

I just found this, it references her 4:11

trackandfieldnews.com

NCAA Cross Country Preview Part 2 — Women’s Top 10 Teams - Track & Field News

Jeff Hollobaugh

FROM THIS EARLY vantage point, it would appear we could very well see the NC State squad repeat atop the... Read More

Link:trackandfieldnews.com/article/ncaa-cro...

1 year ago 12/14/2022 11:58am EST

re: Not as quick as it seems

Not as quick as it seems wrote:
a 4:29 DMR is for 1600m, 9.3m short of a mile, and the runner does not have the reaction time (0.25+ seconds) and gets a rolling start. So, it is more like a 4:32 mile. Of course it depends on the nature of the race, a 4:29 solo is hard, but running in a string of other top runners gets you the pacing and racing and lack of running extra distance.

That's fair. I still can't find any faster split than 4:29 though among the returners though.

As much as I would like to see Butler do the mile at ncaas my guess she will probably run the 800m, as the returning champ. I would pick Roisin Willis to win the 800m though.

1 year ago 12/14/2022 1:05pm EST

re: Blank231

Blank231 wrote:
Not as quick as it seems wrote:
a 4:29 DMR is for 1600m, 9.3m short of a mile, and the runner does not have the reaction time (0.25+ seconds) and gets a rolling start. So, it is more like a 4:32 mile. Of course it depends on the nature of the race, a 4:29 solo is hard, but running in a string of other top runners gets you the pacing and racing and lack of running extra distance.
That's fair. I still can't find any faster split than 4:29 though among the returners though.
As much as I would like to see Butler do the mile at ncaas my guess she will probably run the 800m, as the returning champ. I would pick Roisin Willis to win the 800m though.

If Butler has gotten her fitness back she might very well do the mile. A general thought I have is that all of the athletes in the distance races need to respect the altitude. Note the winning times from 2014.

tfrrs.org

TFRRS | NCAA Division I Indoor Track & Field Championships - Meet Results

Link:www.tfrrs.org/results/34001/NCAA_Divis...

1 year ago 12/14/2022 1:33pm EST

re: FastTuohy

It is interesting that Florida won the NCAA Indoor title last March, by 12 points and Parker Valby did not score a point. Will she run indoor this winter ??

1 year ago 12/14/2022 1:35pm EST

re: slow at 75

slow at 75 wrote:
It is interesting that Florida won the NCAA Indoor title last March, by 12 points and Parker Valby did not score a point. Will she run indoor this winter ??

She broke her foot in February, assuming she is healthy I would think she would compete this year.

1 year ago 12/14/2022 2:37pm EST

re: FastTuohy

A general thought I have is that all of the athletes in the distance races need to respect the altitude. Note the winning times from 2014.
Link:www.tfrrs.org/results/34001/NCAA_Divis...

Altitude will have an impact for sure. Arkansas and Alabama both have New Mexico meets on their schedule before NCAAs as well.

1 year ago 01/17/2023 11:58am EST

re: Good Luck With That

Good Luck With That wrote:
Does anyone know the health status of Lindsey Butler? Is she back to being 100%?

Butler just ran her first 3k at the VT invite, got 2nd in 9:27. Interesting choice to have her race the 3k. Is she moving to the mile instead of 800m for indoors ?!

1 year ago 01/17/2023 12:05pm EST

re: Blank231

Galvydyte and Jepkirui ran the 1000m at the Arkansas invite. Galvydyte won in 2:47, Jepkirui 9th in 2:49.97. Isabel Van Camp 4th.

1 year ago 02/02/2023 8:43am EST

re: Blank231

Blank231 wrote:
I'll start with the mile. Strong competition this year with new faces and top returnees.
Lindsey Butler - last year's 800m indoor champ. But, she also split 4:29 in the DMR. She's been injured. Will she return to the 800m and compete against Willis or go for the mile?

Great article about Butler and her return from a stress fracture. It looks like she is planning to race the 800m at Camel City, but also the mile this season.

dyestat.com

DyeStat.com - News - Virginia Tech's Lindsey Butler Hoping for Big Confidence Boost in Return to 800 Meters at Camel City Elite

Reigning NCAA Division 1 Indoor champ ready for challenge that comes with competing at JDL Fast Track after not racing event since capturing title in March in Birmingham as a result of missing spring season with stress fractu...

Link:www.dyestat.com/gprofile.php?mgroup_id...

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